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[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 17 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Markets don't seem to have priced anything in yet.

[–] WIIHAPPYFEW@hexbear.net 18 points 6 days ago

They’re a feedback loop of finance and tech guys isolated from ppl with net worths of under 500k hyping one another up, no way our economy is doing twice as good as it was in 2017 lmao

Not like anything bad can happen when stock markets get inflated far beyond their original values tho, nuhuh i-love-not-thinking

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 6 days ago

lol they're busy salivating that Trump is going to can Powell and then drop rates to zero

[–] adultswim_antifa@hexbear.net 64 points 1 week ago
[–] iie@hexbear.net 58 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Not knocking the content, but, is this AI-written or do journalists just sound like this now?

[–] elpaso@hexbear.net 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's absolutely AI written.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 23 points 1 week ago

I had a very quick glance, got bored, and I jumped to the end.

That’s how you stay early. That’s how you stay sharp. That’s how you keep the edge.

AI or AI-styled or AI-free - it's still shitty.

[–] znonymous@hexbear.net 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That’s how you stay early. That’s how you stay sharp. That’s how you keep the edge.

I am definitely knocking the content. This entire article sucks.

[–] WIIHAPPYFEW@hexbear.net 4 points 6 days ago

holy fuck every sentence in the article is like 7 words max wtf is this Go Dog Go shit

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago

When you're definitely not padding the word count.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It looks like it's AI styled to me, there are tell tales like the overuse of this isn't about x but also y. That tends to be a clear sign of AI doing the writing.

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

hey maybe don't post that shit then

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I don't see why. I don't care if the text is formatted by LLMs, it's the content that matters. This whole OMG LLM WAS USED TO WRITE SOMETHING hysteria is getting really old and tired.

[–] tripartitegraph@hexbear.net 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'd rather see some cool uses of LLMs in an organizational capacity than constantly bemoaning how bad they are. I don't really see how we can put the cat back in the bag at this point.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 6 days ago

It really is just perseveration at this point.

[–] SchillMenaker@hexbear.net 40 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If people can't be bothered to use actual writers then it's a pretty short hop to not being bothered to provide any real analysis. I'm always going to be skeptical of whatever those models shit out.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That doesn't follow at all. Styling has nothing to do with content. If you have an issue with what the article says, or the numbers used then feel free to point that out.

[–] SchillMenaker@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not only does it follow, it's a casual relationship between the two. It's the same reason Boeing is experiencing design issues at the same time they're experiencing software control issues at the same time as they're experiencing basic manufacturing QC issues; not giving a shit about a main pillar of your industry dramatically increases the likelihood that you don't give a shit about multiple others too.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, it really doesn't follow and there is no relationship between the two. New technology exists and it's now used to automate certain tasks that couldn't be automated before. This is is like arguing that when people stopped writing assembly by hand they stopped giving a shit about coding. People aren't writing articles in artisanal fashion the way they used to because automation has advanced.

Again, feel free to point out actual criticism of the content of the article. I can't help but notice that despite all the whinging, you haven't actually pointed out anything of substance wrong with the article.

[–] SchillMenaker@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It'll be a cold day in hell before I dig into the veracity of an article in Forbes, "artisanal" or not.

The economy is bad and inflation has been running rampant and people can't afford things anymore? Holy shit, someone inform the Nobel committee, this guy is really onto something special.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Right, so there's nothing actually factually wrong in the article, and provides relevant numbers and cites a recent report showing how much car payment delinquencies went up. Some people are actually interested in the details, even if you're not.

You just can't bring yourself to admit that your complaint is vapid. The reality is that whether something was edited by an LLM or not has fuck all to do with the quality of the content. Not only that, but it would also be completely absurd to assume that an article has any veracity merely because it was written without use of LLMs.

[–] SchillMenaker@hexbear.net 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I don't know what's factually wrong in the article but what I can say is that any article I've read in Forbes in the last 10+ years on subject matter that overlaps with my areas of expertise they've been garbage. It's a pay-for-play clickbait publication and it has been that way for a long time.

Car payment delinquency is up among young people but mortgage payment delinquency is flat even with sky high prices and rates. So what? It's not 2007 where people think the economy is going to stay hyperbolic forever, everybody on the planet knows that shit sucks right now. It's a miracle that the wheels have stayed on as long as they have and this frankly isn't an indicator that they're finally coming off.

This is a filler article to try and drum up engagement for engagement's sake and you can bet your ass if I had to write something this meaningless I'd use chat gpt too. Now if it was something important I'd do it myself because I would want to show off to a future employer that I have a shred of talent in my body and that I'm not an dramatically more expensive equivalent of somebody in an Indonesian cube farm.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So, we're back to LLMs have nothing to do with anything here, and Forbes has been able to produce low quality content just fine without them.

Car payment delinquency is very much an important statistic, because as the article correctly points out, you need a car to go to work in most parts of the US. If you lose your car, you lose your job and then you lose everything else. Meanwhile, mortgage delinquencies are not flat. This is the kind of stuff you'd learn if you actually followed these things instead of just hand waving https://www.investopedia.com/mortgage-delinquencies-rise-faster-than-other-loans-11765607

I guess you have provided ample example that you can give chatgpt a run for its money by writing a whole thread that's grammatically correct, but devoid of all substance.

[–] znonymous@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Damn. You are so dense and argumentative on purpose.

I have only noticed you make two posts. Both were AI slop, and one was pure disinfo that was deleted.

None of your comments are interesting or insightful. They are all extremely irritating to read.

I am blocking you. For everyone else's sake. I really hope you just go into read-only mode. It's been truly awful reading any of your thoughts.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 21 hours ago
[–] nothx@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

My problem is with the LLM in general. I purposely avoid the AI written shit if I can because I don't want to support the use of AI and/or LLMs.

[–] Bronstein_Tardigrade@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

AI Luddites Unite! Anyone who says "I don't care" or "I don't see the problem with LLMs" needs to learn about the environmental damage being done by huge AI systems.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 6 days ago

You gotta update your talking points. Energy needs for both training and running models have already dropped dramatically. Models that used to require a whole data centre just a year ago now run on a desktop. https://venturebeat.com/ai/deepseek-v3-now-runs-at-20-tokens-per-second-on-mac-studio-and-thats-a-nightmare-for-openai/

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 week ago

I mean you do you I guess? 🤷

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 week ago

which makes the subscription nag in this page very ironic.

[–] semioticbreakdown@hexbear.net 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

totally reads like it stylistically speaking. has all the AI trope turns of phrase and bullet points

[–] cinnaa42@hexbear.net 21 points 1 week ago

how dare you doubt Jim Osman, a finance expert with over 30 years of experience

[–] The_Walkening@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago

I looked at an article of his from 2019 (so no chatGPT) and it's pretty bad; this guy seems to really love commas: https://www.forbes.com/sites/jimosman/2019/05/08/unicorn-myth-uber-wework-dotcom-bubble/

Though it really looks like he just fed a bunch of his articles to ChatGPT and is slowly making it less and less coherent because he's just copy/pasting all his articles from the same chat. Also I think b/c he's a contributor he wouldn't have an editor since he's a not a staff writer?

IDK Forbes was a massive slop mill that anyone with a pulse could send in articles to for a good while, he probably was able to stick around b/c of the business focus.

[–] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 34 points 1 week ago

If car loans are defaulting, the American economy is collapsing. Buckle up or something shits gonna get much worse

[–] SupFBI@hexbear.net 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Invest in my new start ups; RepoAI and DebtAI. Let our tools do all the work to take care of harassing people down on their luck.

This is where smart capital plays. Watch behavior. Anticipate dislocation. Don’t wait for the narrative to catch up. That’s how alpha is made.