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For all the Trump administration’s talk of saving money and increasing “government efficiency,” the president demanded that huge amounts be appropriated in the Republicans’ recent budget bill to fund his mass-deportation program.

In all, $170 billion was set aside to be spent over the next four years for border and immigration enforcement. This total includes $45 billion to create a sprawling detention system (nearly five times the annual budget for the Bureau of Prisons), $30 billion for ICE operations, $46.6 billion for more border wall construction, and, as if that weren’t enough, a new $10 billion border patrol slush fund.

This level of funding is unprecedented. ICE is now the highest-funded law enforcement agency in the country. And that fact raises a question: What exactly are they going to do with all that money?

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[–] TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 82 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Disaster in the making? It's already a fucking disaster. ICE agents have been granted additional slack above and beyond that already extended to normal cops, who frequently abuse it. This is going to be a fucking American Kristallnacht for Latinos, with more groups set to follow in the wake of these broad constitutional and legal abuses.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Dunno, I've seen quite a few Spanish second names on that site people link here in comments.

I'd say it's going to be a problem for everyone, but not like Kristallnacht. That was, a reminder, SA public action, rather artistic, in line with the Nazi official policy. A show.

Though one can say today's elites love a good show too, I won't repeat again that thing about impression economy I've read about from Cory Doctorow, I think. I think in line with that some Nazi approaches are possible. That's what they did with Gaza and Alawites in Syria (no way this was without Israel's and US and EU approval, just no way).

But - impressions also were a big thing then. Radio just became popular. Olympic games. Automobiles gaining popularity. Airships. Electric lighting. Radiola, pianola, such various automatons using radio and punchcards. Tabulating machines that Nazis used for their population census.

That wasn't just goons given right to do whatever (they were in Nazi Germany too, but that was small stuff - once a few dozen times someone failed to say "Sieg Heil" they might have been beaten or even killed by a Nazi, and in general Nazis were openly against any kind of due process, - all that "fanatisch, total und radikal" stuff about just vibing through grotesque cruelty and aggression, they were LARPing a tribe, after all, - so acts of random cruelty were normal).

So yes, the time is similar in some way. But when thinking that, let's also remember that in the 30s many people would think Hitler is the future in Britain and in USA, and in east Asia that old impression still holds.

The steel monsters that broke this one's back were too not nice, but they did the job and learned some of the lessons.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

it's true that our current situation is a disaster. it does not diminish the fact that an even bigger disaster is being constructed while we process and attempt to repair this disaster. the old ice agents are bad, evil, and cruel, but they were also all recruited under a different framing of what ICE is supposed to be. the new ones will have absolutely no compunctions, no reservations, and no hesitations.

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[–] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Yup, combined with the EO from Friday allowing for involuntary civil commitment, more and more people outside latinos are going to start disappearing. I'm just waiting for them to consider having liberal views a mental disorder.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

They are going to go after trans people.

Is anyone going to do anything when we start being committed?

[–] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Short of hijacking a bulldozer and driving it through the exterior walls of these detention centers at risk of getting myself killed, I legit don't know what to do with anything at this point.

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[–] splount@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago (2 children)

We are going to see some real Abu Graib type shit in no time at all with the culture of abuse and rushed training. But will any of the immovable 40% who voted for this start to question our embrace of cruelty on a national level? Meh...Look at the baubles!

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[–] myrrh@ttrpg.network 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

...they are paying bounties on extra-judicial arrests...

bounties.

for arrest without trial.

...barring decisive impeachment and conviction in eighteen months, there is no way this doesn't end in blood and fire...

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago

But but the Epstein files bro just wait for you'll see everyone will confirm for sure again that he's a rapist and we'll defeat facism bro don't forget the Epstein files trust me bro

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[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is how they will do their kristelnacht (day of the rope)

They are gathering data on all of us

That is what the army is for

[–] Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 55 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Night of Broken Glass, dude

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 22 points 1 week ago (5 children)

they're saying america's version will be broad daylight lynchings. he's translating not the german to english, but the nazi to maga

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It's Kristallnacht, Christel has nothing to do with any of this.

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[–] womjunru@lemmy.cafe 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fine them. Find their families. Publish their info.

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's too bad a doxxing website for ICE would get shut down easily or the operators disappeared...

...otherwise I'd totally create it.

[–] womjunru@lemmy.cafe 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] Cocopanda@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

People should start following bros back to their operating centers then following them home. Create a catalog publicly showing their homes to the public. See how that goes for them SS officers.

When I worked for DoD. This was CBP and Other three letter groups biggest fears. Having their private lives invaded.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

When I worked for DoD. This was CBP and Other three letter groups biggest fears. Having their private lives invaded.

Might be unwise to frighten them before you have something to substantiate that fear with, they have weapons and an organization.

Cause frightening them without such basis is how you accelerate fascism. They would want to just enjoy their newly gotten power and - for the top - stolen money, but fear compels them to also press against threats to that.

Like after Bolotnaya protests in Moscow the Russian regime started doing various crap with increased tempo. They might not even have attacked Ukraine without it.

[–] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We know what they want to do with the money because we saw WWI and WWII; create an army directly responsive to the president to facilitate ethnic cleansing and usher in eugenics.

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[–] NikolaTeslasPigeon@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

I wonder what measures they'll be taking to filter out a would-be saboteur? Would be really hard if the target is to hire 10k people.

[–] chonkyninja@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

.308 SBR’s to the rescue.

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[–] griff@lemmings.world 8 points 1 week ago

The GOP-dominated US federal government continues its malevolent efforts to Make America Grotesque AF

[–] oyzmo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

...give it some time, and it'll be death squad. Just plain killing people, cheaper than sending them away.

[–] arin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

No wonder they went so hard against antifascist early on...

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