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[–] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 54 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Breaking news: It’s a national security risk to host power plant software on international servers hosted by countries that cannot be trusted

Like on some level, no shit? Why were you doing that? Host that shit in country are you stupid? Why is it even legal for your energy companies to host their services abroad?

This is India! It’s a country of over a billion people! Build a data center!

[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 33 points 4 days ago

This is India! It’s a country of over a billion people! Build a data center!

India famously has no programmers that live there.

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 4 days ago

Why were you doing that? Host that shit in country are you stupid?

i imagine a very angry phone call between a minister and an executive contained those exact words lol

Why is it even legal for energy companies to host their services abroad?

and those words in a phone call between ministers

[–] john_brown@hexbear.net 41 points 4 days ago (3 children)

It seems absurd to be using Microsoft subscription services when you're not a US based company in 2025. The empire will weaponize anything it can, why in the world would you just hand them your IT infrastructure? In a sane world there would be a massive exodus from western SaaS bullshit to preserve independence and national interests.

[–] StillNoLeftLeft@hexbear.net 27 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

It's so absurd and seems like an alternative can't even be discussed in most places.

I work in the public sector in my country and we use Microsoft. Thankfully not for client or patient info, but for everything else it's windows and ms office.

There was a graph circulated here not long ago about how a mindblowingly large part of the budget of the entire state goes into microsoft licenses.

[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

mindblowingly large part of the budget of the entire state goes into microsoft licenses.

Have they not heard of open source software?

[–] onoira@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 days ago

they have, but they assume:

  • 'for-profit' means 'good' because 'they have a lot of money'.
  • 'proprietary' means 'good' because 'the code/infrastructure is obfuscated'.
  • 'widely used' means 'good' because 'more people with the skills to manage it' and 'it's widely supported'.
  • 'open source' means 'bad' because 'anyone can analyse the code for exploits without reporting them'.
  • 'self-sufficiency' means 'bad' because 'that's anticompetitive'.

 

they hear the phrases 'supply chain attacks' and '24/7 premium support' and they're sold. the more responsibility they can foist onto third-parties for when something goes wrong, the less liability they have.

in a lot of 'developed' countries: government at all levels are structurally forbidden from managing their own infrastructure. to 'maintain the free market' and avoid 'anticompetition' lawsuits, they procure development contracts via bids. Microsoft has the money and dominance to not only lobby governments to adopt their software, but can also outbid most other companies, and pays a lot of money to ensure there's an army of Microsoft Certified™ office workers and technicians everywhere.

every time the government tries to do something by itself, or to exclude one company or another from the bidding process, the industry lobbies crawl out to screech about 'competition' and 'free market principles'.

China is going to fill that gap quick with their Linux forks. I feel like this is a big red nuclear button that should have never been pressed in such a circumstance. The empire is overplaying it's hand far too early and a non-critical moment, and they're going to lose that asset as a result.

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 24 points 4 days ago

It seems absurd to be using Microsoft subscription services in 2025

manhattan

[–] mrfugu@hexbear.net 31 points 4 days ago (2 children)

In this instance, the cutoff was sought by the European Union (EU), in an attempt to pressure Russia to back off its assaults on Ukraine. But what if the requester was a government that just didn’t like what an enterprise said or did?

First of all, wtf is the difference. Second can someone explain this? What does an Indian power company have to do with Russia?

[–] Edie@hexbear.net 27 points 4 days ago

I assume the Indian company was going around the sanctions and buying Russian gas.

[–] Beaver@hexbear.net 18 points 4 days ago

The Empire is really feeling itself. You can be sure all the diplomats in BRICS meetings will be talking about this as an example of the urgency of developing their own infotech instead of continuing to pay western companies for those services.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 30 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] MizuTama@hexbear.net 20 points 4 days ago

Juche self-reliance stays having the last laugh.

[–] blobjim@hexbear.net 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Crazy doing this to their own "partner" country, India. Also just blatant white suprremacy. The EU or US says something and it gets done. India couldn't pass a law to tell Microsoft to sanction EU countries. This is what happens when you have imperialist running dogs in power, India!

[–] ahrienby@hexbear.net 15 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Also in the news, Microsoft is now transphobic.

[–] supafuzz@hexbear.net 7 points 4 days ago