Besides the taxes of it all, are we hiring tons more customs agents to process all of these shipments that used to be exempt? Besides paying more for the item, it is going to take waaaaaaaaay longer to receive an item like this now as well.
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People will order way less so it will even out?
That's just the tariff logic all over again. We're ordering it overseas because they don't make it here. We don't have the resources or the knowledge to make it here anymore and taxing it isn't going to do anything more money into the hands of the oligarchs.
It's a grift to pay for the tax breaks for the super wealthy.
That doesn't change the fact that people are going to order less, if only because they can afford less
Technically correct, but not to any point where it will have the intended consequence.
The vast majority of people will silently pay $18 instead of $12 for a shitty tiktok item because it's not available locally. It's primarily a tax on the masses, not some altruistic way to push manufacturing to the US.
Only as long as they can put it on debt. But the "vast majority" of Americans already can't afford to buy the $12 thing, let alone the $18 one. At some point it's not that they'll choose to not buy more expensive stuff, it's that they won't have the ability. At which point, people will just buy less stuff.
The shitty tictok items costing more is just flat out good. That kind of waste needs to be eliminated anyways.
The bigger issues is products that actually matter, like washing machines and appliances
Just got fucked by DHL holding my PCB order hostage. Had to pay an extra $66 that wasn't at play last week, when I placed my order. I'm sooo glad the "country" is getting rich off of my back. I guess this is another hobby that will have to take a back seat for a few years...
I ordered a large keyboard enclosure from JLCPCB's 3D-printing division recently. The tarriffs were like $48 on top of $45 postage and a $80 actual-goods price.
When I fed the job into Craftcloud (probably not the cheapest but a quick way to read the market) trying to get a US-based supplier would have been like $800.
They can't tarrif these industries back on shore. At least not in any sort of useful timescale.
But the most frustrating part is just the ever-changing aspect. If they said it was a specific amount eith a clear timetable, merchants could at least build prepayment and accurate prices into their checkout flows. Now there's the risk that whatever amount you paid 2 weeks ago is wrong, and the couriers seem to be responsible for collection, who love to turn that into an excuse to add penalty fees and hold parcels hostage.
Yup. My last JLC PCB order, also keyboard related, came at the worst of the recent tariffs, and it was still 1/3 the price of the cheapest option for PCBs in the US, and the pre-clearance rolled into shipping was as much as the tariffs themselves. The only place even close in price was a fab in India.
It's dubious to to think that every country needs to have every sector fully spun up anyway, but even if that's your goal you don't just dump it on people overnight. That just raises prices and hammers the economy without creating any new jobs. Even the Trumpers know this at some level, hence TACO.
I'll agree till your last sentence. Trumpers know very little about reality, they operate entirely on wishes and imagined the unfairness.
Some custom designed stuff I ordered just landed today. I’m about to pay an extra $300 because of that fool.
I've been researching methods for fabbing my own boards. I've got some pretty tight tolerances I'm trying to meet.
Any potential paths forward? Desktop cnc?
For my purposes: CNC routing is too sloppy. Photolithography is promising, but involves a lot of steps with potential for error at every stage, not to mention the chemicals necessary for etching. Lasers are interesting, both for lithography and direct copper ablation, but there's a high barrier to entry with cost.
Fair, ya even around 10 mil is probably pretty tough with a reasonable cost cnc. I imagine with laser ablation, you'll probably run into similar issues, you still have to physically move and point the laser, mirrors, or your target base.
I've got a little bit of a background in optics and sensors, but diy photolithography still seems pretty challenging, would be interested in following your work if you go down that route.
Computer-controlled laster etching/cutting is a thing - ideally we have as few manual steps as possible.
Ya ya, but same with cnc, you have things like backlash and physical control challenges.
Those can be adequately overcome by a proper controller. The greater challenges are in the physical effects of the actual method, such as CNC burrs and ablation heat spreading.
I hope this kills trash retailers like Temu.
I hope it kills all US businesses and get people in the streets.
It won't, it will actually crucify small businesses
It's gonna kill small business
Temu didn't pay the bribe
This already happened months ago
I thought so to, but according to the article, this started happening months ago, but now the scope is expanding. Per the article, China and Hong Kong exemptions ended a while back, but now exemptions for other nations will be ending if I understood it correctly.
Ah, so it isnt about china, its about isolating the US.
Trump loves to fuck the economy when hes not busy fucking children.