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[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

That's about how ours went. I usually went to bed around midnight, and usually would fall asleep during some class or another.

I recently found a report card from my senior year, apparently I took AP Economics that year and it was the last class of the day for me. I don't remember doing it at all, but I was getting an A- at the time.

I'm sure those two little personal stories are unrelated.

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I don’t understand how going to bed early is a problem.

My high school started at 0800hrs. I had to be up by 0630hrs to catch the bus at 0715hrs, and it was a 15-minute walk to get to it. I went to bed some time between 2130hrs and 2230hrs almost every night like clockwork.

Did I get 10hrs of sleep? No. But the ≈8hrs I did get was enough to ensure I was awake and coherent in the morning.

If kids are tired in the morning, what’s stopping them from going to bed earlier? I was never forced to do so. I just did, because I was getting tired shortly after 2100hrs. I listened to my body.

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[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world -3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

You are supposed to go to sleep early. Then you will get your 8 hours of sleep. For some time I had to wake up as early as 4:30. As I had to drive my car to get to work, staying up late was just unthinkable to me.

[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world -2 points 6 days ago

Unpopular opinion, even if people didn’t wake up at 6:30 people would still be complaining [insert time here] is to early

[–] Nefara@lemmy.world 141 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was an incredibly angsty teenager, mad at the world and hostile to just about everyone by default. Apathetic, grumpy, and uninterested in physical activity or the things I liked as a preteen.

After having a baby and getting very little sleep for 6 months I recognized some of my old patterns. Turns out, it wasn't just part of being a teen, I was chronically sleep deprived. I was up at 6am most days back then, when I would sleep until 1pm on weekends. I think a lot of teens are unfairly characterized as angry and defiant when they're operating on half or a quarter of the sleep they need.

Ah yes, I remember those accusations of grumpiness. It’s the classic “MY issues are because of the circumstances around me. YOUR issues are because that’s just who you are.” The lack of empathy so many adults express is truly concerning.

[–] scott@lemmy.org 112 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

The way I see it, you're probably freest from the ages one to four Around the age of five you're shipped away for your body to be stored They promise education, but really they give you tests and scores And they predictin' prison population by who scoring the lowest

So much of the education system is centered on child abuse and grooming children to accept abuse as adults

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 79 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Also it's affordable daycare for kids so parents can work.

[–] Pencilnoob@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago

That's the real reason it starts early: so two working parents can get the kids out the door and then still have time to get to work themselves

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[–] makyo@lemmy.world 59 points 1 week ago

My mental health radically improved my senior year when I was ahead on credits and could skip the first block of classes each morning.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 46 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

i highkey think school as it stands is child abuse.

i'm not a pedagogue or educator so i'm not versed on how to really articulate it, just had a constant feeling school was useless for learning, and felt like fucking prisons (and in retrospect i still think that's true).

school 100% stunted my potential big time and i still fucking hate it for doing this and more. free our youth.

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[–] joyjoy@lemmy.zip 39 points 1 week ago

You can't cause delinquency if you're too busy getting 8 hours of sleep.

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