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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 0 points 6 days ago
[–] HeartyOfGlass@piefed.social 356 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This tells me LibreOffice has become a threat to Microsoft, and I'm here for it.

If anyone else is curious what it's like, LibreOffice's site is here. Highly recommend.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 101 points 1 week ago (3 children)

using Microsoft Word for too long makes me break out in Tourette's

Writer is so much more understandable

[–] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Word is proof that there is no God and that we're all alone in the cold vacuum of space. Word is every traffic light being red. Word is getting an itchy arsehole because you couldn't quite wipe yourself properly.

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[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It tells me microsoft is petty

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Large corporations have zero empathy for competition.

What will their quarterly report say? Think of the stockholders. (/s)

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 week ago

It's not even that. It's way smaller potatoes down in the org chart.

People always say "why would large company do this" and the answer is almost always that guy 7 or 8 rows down the org chart needs this to get their bonus this year and that point gets distilled into 1 bullet in a power point presentation that is summarized by chatgpt.

[–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I visited a local Microsoft office in the mid-90s. Their office employee kitchen had a poster of the Internet Explorer logo smashing the Netscape logo to a bloody pulp.

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[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago

They literally blew billions of dollars and years of developer time just to screw the companies that won the argument of “open internet or Microsoft protocol” back in the day. Yes, petty.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 week ago

Probably has something to do with more and more things like this happening:

https://cybernews.com/news/france-lyon-microsoft-office-tech-adoption/

[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 155 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Anyone who has projects on Github they care about, you might wanna move it to self-hosting or another git host while you still can, because once MS gets tired of killing e-mails, Github repos are probably going to start getting sniped next.

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 70 points 1 week ago

Even if you stay on GitHub, definitely mirror to another host. Git is designed to be distributed, why not make use of that capability!

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (10 children)

So either Codeberg, Sourcehut or Gitlab ??

If you want to quit Git entirely then Fossil which has a built-in GUI & a fully-fledged alternative to both Git & Github & is self-hostable or Darcs/Pijul which are Patch-oriented

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world -3 points 6 days ago

Oh man, I hate the whole git system so much, it was like the worst part of coding.

[–] gi1242@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago

codeberg is owned by a nonprofit. highly recommend it

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 6 points 1 week ago

Self-hosted GitLab is what GNOME and Debian chose to do.

I still use the main GitLab for most things.

https://repo.or.cz/ provides just git hosting.

It's also relatively easy to just self-host Git, though permissions can be wonky, at least last time I tried.

I can't recommend Darcs. Luckily I don't see MS (or any other corp) being able to take over core Git development. I really should try Pijul again, but least time I played with it, the history/branch visualization (which you can do without, but I really like to have) was actually still worse than Darcs.

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 107 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Mafia shit cause the mob boss is the President.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lets be real here. They'd do it no matter who's in charge.

[–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 8 points 1 week ago

They have been doing this for 40+ years

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 96 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This isn't a conspiracy...

It's the reality of using Hotmail as a business account in 2025.

Which is frankly nuts.

But the author even says the same thing happened to them before too

[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 49 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Using Hotmail for anything was already a bad idea, using it for an open-source dev account is worse. I don't understand why they haven't switched to something else 20 years ago.

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[–] hansolo 18 points 1 week ago

95% of senior government officials across Africa will give you a fancy-ass, taxpayer funded, full color laminated plastic business card that lists their email address for official business as Gmail or Hotmail.

Like... Today. Right now. I used to have a collection. Once got one with a 3D hologram thing. Fucking hotmail and gmail address.

[–] Vince@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yep, I don't remember the exact phrasing, but in these situations, I assume incompetence before I assume evil intent.

Maybe it is intentional but the incompetence is in how obvious they are.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetentance

Is the saying, but it's definitely not always true.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 68 points 1 week ago (13 children)

No real reason to be using a hotmail account in this day and age, even less so if you're a developer of a direct competitor for Microsoft.

[–] kadup@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Eh, that's the problem with email - it's much harder to change and migrate, because you can't guarantee others will use your new email, much less find out who somehow still has the old email to send messages to and expects a reply from.

[–] stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This is an argument for having your own domain for emails. There is an annual cost but at least your address isn't locked to a specific provider sokcd you can change some DNS settings to point at a different mail server.

[–] HowAbt2day@futurology.today 9 points 1 week ago

I’ve been with Tuta mail for years now and it just keeps getting better. It’s not free, but I believe that that’s why it’s a good choice. They’ve add the calendar app and are expanding to cloud storage.

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[–] feannag@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago

Unless you own the domain. Then switching providers is a simple DNS/MX/DKIM/DMARC update.

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[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

What alternative do you recommend that won't be blocked by Google and Microsoft? I hate Microsoft, but I can't even sign up for a Google account, and everywhere else I've tried is blocked by Google, Microsoft, or both.

I self-hosted my email from 2006-2021, and do not have the stamina to do that any more.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

If your concern is being blocked, the best advice is to avoid any free email service and pony up for a paid one.

ProtonMail used to be the big one, but IIRC they had some controversy recently:

https://cointelegraph.com/magazine/proton-mail-exposing-activists-info-showed-the-limits-of-encryption/

https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/the-intercept-proton-mail-says-it-s-politically-neutral-while-praising-republican-party/24456

Other commenter already mentioned Zoho, but also mailbox.org.

[–] edb_fyr@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Zoho works well for me with my own domain (though I am on the old free plan that allows IMAP, while today the free plan only supports webmail or their own app). I also know someone who uses Tuta without problems sending to Google and Microsoft.

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[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago

Relying on American companies is a liability in of itself.

While there is corruption everywhere and on a standardized basis, there are of course countries with higher levels of corruption, the US is the #1 source of corruption and criminality in the world. Additionally it's the ideological centre for global oligarch/criminal gangs.

Microsoft's monopoly in Windows and Office alone results in extraction of hundreds of billions of dollars from companies and individuals all around the world.

[–] kyub@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

By the way, ignoring as much of this big tech corpo crap as you can also makes you live an easier life.

Whenever I see a story of "some guy who relies on working loses access to it and suddenly can't do anything anymore" I think "this can never happen to me". Which means there's a whole category of problems you're suddenly never going to see. It also means you're less naive. So just don't vendor-lock yourself in. Don't put a log-in for an account which you don't control in front of important things you need to do. Simple as that.

On top of that, you'll also leak less private data about yourself and probably others as well. So you even make yourself less of a target when it comes to data protection laws or something. I know, these get routinely ignored. I'm just saying, if you don't even use the problematic stuff (or almost never), you'll also have potentially less legal troubles at hand. And you never know, legel troubles might not appear for a while but they could lurk far in the future. For example, many Nazis got into legal trouble for their participation in Nazi Germany, even decades later.

I know, the guy from the story probably only needed that account to ensure he can compare some stuff with how MS Office is behaving compared to LibreOffice, or things like that. So it's probably not a big deal. But generally speaking, you really shouldn't vendor-lock yourself in.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago

I have this exact same thought. I see things like this and I'm like, God, I'm glad I don't have any of that shit.

[–] BakedCatboy@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 week ago

MS ❤️ Open Source

(/s)

[–] klobuerschtler@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Who in their right mind uses hotmail?

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What, Microsoft? The corporation built almost entirely out of copying Apple and buying up competitors to destroy them? Microsoft the convicted monopoly?

Noooooo! It can't be! They're so . . . uh . . . ubiquitous.

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[–] hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 week ago

High likelihood this just some AI bot with no oversight fucking up than something malicious. Outlook.com's support system is atrocious and devoid of humans at this point unless you're an enterprise.

I tried to go through their support to tell them their junk filter was fucking up (bank alerts being marked as junk with no way to override) and got nowhere after like two months. Had to change the email I use for banking.

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