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[–] Decimit@lemmy.world 330 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Pirating went down when paying for streaming was more convenient. Well, you are making it far less convenient.

[–] Dubious_Fart@lemmy.ml 105 points 1 year ago (19 children)

Streaming has become cable 2.0.

It was wonderful when everything was on one, maybe two providers. Could watch everything in a very easy, very affordable way.

But everyone saw that, went "I know, I want that money!" and spent billions building their own individual infrastructures so make their own streaming services, and right around we go right back to the absolute worst days of cable and bullshit.

Only thing stopping me from saying fuck it and downloading shit I want to watch, is the fact that I no longer know what the good sites are.. since I havent pirated since the heyday of the bay.

[–] Decimit@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago

piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com Their sidebar can teach you a lot.

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[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 183 points 1 year ago (9 children)

To be completely fair, it's been over for a while. Even if you completely forget about infrastructure, between the endless wars for licenses, endless removals of content from platforms, shitty inconvenient apps, and regional locks, it's already a dying market.

On top of all of that, they're implementing the "don't you have 5 extra dollars" strategy, with skyrocketing monthly prices for each of these. If it was 15$ a month to watch anything, i would still pay. but it's 15$ for each of them, and they still serve you ads, and sell your data

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 62 points 1 year ago (9 children)

The funny thing is we're rapidly approaching the point where there's more digital content than any single human could consume in a lifetime. Including content from before copyright. So the main thing streaming services offer you is convenience and up-to-date media. But if you're just trying to entertain yourself 30-year-old 40-year-old 50-year-old 60-year-old 70-year-old content can be just as engrossing. You just get emotionally invested in it.

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 44 points 1 year ago (13 children)

I've found a DVD rental place close to me with quite a collection. Honestly thinking about just unsubscribing from all streaming and going all in on DVD rental. I watched one recently for the first time ... you forget how consistently good the qualilty is compared to streaming (YMMV). But, in true hipster fashion, being more deliberate about what I watch, more openly exploratory, making more of an event of it, all seems attractive. If streaming were actually convenient, fine, but with the way things are now ... they can go to hell.

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[–] jonne@infosec.pub 47 points 1 year ago (3 children)

And the writer's strike shows that the artists don't get paid anyway if you pay for content, so they can't even play that card either.

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[–] Liberalism@hexbear.net 150 points 1 year ago (8 children)

The era of cheap streaming is over, now begins the era of free streaming

[–] DavyJones@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️

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[–] silvercove@lemdro.id 117 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No worries, I wasn't paying anyway!

🏴‍☠️ 🏴‍☠️ 🏴‍☠️

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[–] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 97 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] s20@lemmy.ml 81 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, hell. I guess I'll go back to watching less and buying DVDs. I'm not watching commercials on a service I pay for. That's a non starter.

Worst comes to worse, I can dust off my eye patch, grab my parrot, and take to the high seas. I don't wanna, I prefer to pay for stuff, but ffs, if they can't be reasonable, I guess it's back to arrr me hearties.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago (36 children)

who the fuck pays to watch ads. what a ludicrous proposition. that's the part that makes no sense to me.

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 80 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

🪢 Heave-ho! Thieves and beggars!
Never shall we die! 🏴‍☠️

[–] vitriolix@lemmy.ml 77 points 1 year ago (3 children)

and thus began the second golden age of piracy

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[–] HonestMistake_@lemmy.ml 75 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh well, there's plenty of space for all of ya here on the high seas, welcome aboard, mateys!

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[–] jetsetdorito@lemm.ee 74 points 1 year ago

Jellyfin / Plex downloads 📈📈📈

[–] Elon_Musk@hexbear.net 62 points 1 year ago (10 children)

era of torrenting unaffected

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[–] GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 62 points 1 year ago (5 children)

But Wednesday’s move to significantly bump prices, marked an acknowledgment by Iger of the media giant’s intent to squeeze more revenue out of streaming by pushing consumers to the advertising-supported plans, which have proven to be more profitable.

“The advertising marketplace for streaming is picking up,” Iger told investors on the quarterly earnings call. “It’s more healthy than the advertising marketplace for linear television. We believe in the future of advertising on our streaming platforms, both Disney+ and Hulu.”

This is extremely important for them. Netflix's excellent deal for most of its streaming existence was obviously a thorn in the side of many other businesses. Even if streaming services can get you to pay an exorbitant amount of money on an ad-free tier, advertisers are frothing for the chance to advertise to you regardless. They want you to see their ads so badly. And let's not forget all the big tech companies, Netflix included, were riding high during the free money days of 0% interest loans. Those days are over, and the bill is due. Wall Street wants its money. And we are all the ones who have to pay up. Cheap streaming is officially over.

This is why these companies, including Netflix, have all introduced ad tiers. Not only is it a great way for them to juice their revenue streams, but also every other company wants a permanent residence in your brain, and then some. Given the way things have been going since duo-eras of the COVID pandemic and corporate profit-based inflation, they don't even need to collude on prices. All the execs need to do is look at the business press and say, "Hey, they're getting away with increased prices and password sharing crackdowns. We can do the same thing. The pay pigs keep paying!"

[–] salient_one@lemmy.villa-straylight.social 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

I really cannot understand why advertising is such a huge business. Where does all the money spent on advertising really come from?

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[–] docrobot@lemmy.sdf.org 61 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Am I the only one that remembers the "cut the cord" and "stop feeding the cable pig" nonsense? What happened to all that? Thankfully, none of this has affected me, then or now. I don't usually bother with "programming" of any kind but, when I do, "arr mateys."

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[–] Karza@discuss.tchncs.de 58 points 1 year ago (3 children)

We can go start pirating again

[–] gressen@lemm.ee 60 points 1 year ago

You guys stopped pirating?

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[–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It is inevitable, every industry grows to destroy itself through contradictions. It is just annoying how fast this business model took to do it.

[–] Parent@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago

Have to keep the profits increasing every quarter, otherwise shareholders will sell and buy your competitors and line go down. The article talks a little about how a lot of the streaming platforms have raised prices this year since right now shareholders want to see more profit instead of growth with interest rates up.

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[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 55 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It’s an ironic end to the streaming wars. After pouring billions and billions of dollars into constructing supposedly revolutionary streaming platforms, and decimating the business models that had offered the industry stability for decades, the ultimate product looks awfully similar to what companies and consumers were trying to break free from in the first place.

I'll still take streaming any day over cable.

No contract and you can put everything in rotation. Sign up for a month, binge, cancel, next.

[–] mild_deviation@programming.dev 46 points 1 year ago

Sign up for a month, binge, cancel, next.

That's not going to last. As soon as they run the numbers and decide it's worth it, they'll create ways to lock you in.

[–] lukzak@lemmy.ml 43 points 1 year ago (14 children)

The streaming companies are starting to get wise to that. They've started splitting seasons and releasing them separately so that you have to be subbed for 2 months.

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[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 55 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The era of piracy has returned. 🏴‍☠️

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[–] NotErisma@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What an unusually comedic yet depressing final comments in the article:

It’s an ironic end to the streaming wars. After pouring billions and billions of dollars into constructing supposedly revolutionary streaming platforms, and decimating the business models that had offered the industry stability for decades, the ultimate product looks awfully similar to what companies and consumers were trying to break free from in the first place.

Im just gonna parrot what the other person remarked because what they said is pretty on point: I mean this is basically inevitable. We know that capitalism doesn't actually seek the lowest price as its evangelists usually preach, but the highest - and so there is no way that streaming will not balloon over time to a price comparable to the cable TV plans of the past.

Yarrr

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[–] ExLisper@linux.community 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm paying for Spotify and Netflix because they are very convenient. I'm not paying for another 5 subscriptions because they maybe have this one show I would like to watch. They worked hard on fragmenting the marked and now they will complain people don't want to pay for 10 different subscriptions

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[–] FakeNewsForDogs@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I realized a year or so ago (after a letter from my isp) that I didn’t actually need to torrent anymore. There are websites like bflix.io (and I’m sure many others) that have basically everything streaming for free. Fuck subscriptions. Would maybe go back to torrenting if I got a vpn sorted out, but you’re not gonna get in trouble for streaming shit on a pirate website, so for now it’s the best solution I’ve found. Certainly not paying any of these assholes. Lol. Fuck outta here with that.

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[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 46 points 1 year ago (10 children)

We came back to another cycle of big corporations forgetting they have to be more convenient than pirating.

Can't speak for anyone else, but just having an actual no logs VPN for less than the cost of one streaming service while also using qbittorrent with the torrent site search function is so much more convenient than spending probably hundreds at this point for streaming services I might only watch anything on once a blue moon.

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[–] Resol@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago

I think I'm gonna go sailing the seven seas again.

[–] zephyrvs@lemmy.ml 42 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Around 2010 there was this "pledge" where a website people basically collected a list of things they'd require in order to stop pirating tv shows and movies and I think it came down to:

Provide easy access to large library Provide multi language support, must offer original language Allow downloads/offline viewing Be reasonably priced

Plus some additional stuff I can't remember.

When Netflix got big, they basically covered it all. Then everyone wanted a piece of the pie.

Back to piracy then. 15$ for put.io ✨🙏

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[–] Infynis@midwest.social 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] 21racecar12@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Looks around. You guys are still streaming?

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[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago

I don't know, my stremio app and torrent client is still working. The era of cheap streaming may be over, but the era of free streaming never ended!

[–] uralsolo@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I mean this is basically inevitable. We know that capitalism doesn't actually seek the lowest price as its evangelists usually preach, but the highest - and so there is no way that streaming will not balloon over time to a price comparable to the cable TV plans of the past.🏴‍☠️ yo ho yo ho a pirate's life for me 🏴‍☠️

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[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I mean people spent $100/mo. on cable for decades with no option to opt out of ads. And they had to just like jump into the middle of whatever happened to be on at the time.

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[–] library_napper@monyet.cc 36 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Lol wut. My streaming torrents have never been better!

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[–] booty@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

The era of free streaming is still going strong. anarchista-chad

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's incredible to watch them kill their own golden goose

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[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

sings Farewell and adieu to you greedy streamers.
Farewell and adieu, to you subscription pains
For we're now returning to the torrents of the pirates
and we may ner see you curs'd streamers again

We'll post and we'll flame like true software pirates
we'll post and we'll flame, all over the net
Until we can find us an FTP server
And get all the slop that we're ach'n to get

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[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 34 points 1 year ago

And that's me done with Disney+ - big price hikes and the removal of password sharing have killed the value in it.

Plus, I have such a massive backlog of things to watch, I wouldn't even notice.

[–] Zebov@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But hey, at least we also get connection issues when compared to cable.

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