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MOSCOW, Nov 30 (Reuters) - Russia's Supreme Court ruled on Thursday that LGBT activists should be designated as extremists, in a move that representatives of gay and transgender people fear will lead to arrests and prosecutions.

A Reuters reporter in court heard it announce that it had approved a request from the justice ministry to recognise what it called "the international LGBT social movement" as extremist and to ban its activities.

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[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 75 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Russia: where love is “extreme” and war is “love”

[–] SamsonSeinfelder@feddit.de 33 points 11 months ago

Russia: Where domestic violence is not a crime, and love is a crime

[–] DarkenLM@kbin.social 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

To be fair, Robotech 1985 taught me that love is a weapon

We can find the glory we all dream of, and with our love, we will win

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

That is in fact the cult of death worship that’s one of the signs of fascism.

[–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] FriendOfElphaba@sh.itjust.works 52 points 11 months ago (4 children)

This is why I cannot consider the so-called leftists who oppose taking action against a fascist like Putin to be actual leftists. Putin is a hard right dictator who violates every principle of human rights at every turn.

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 45 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Tankies are authoritarians, the left/right angle doesn’t matter there.

[–] anarchost@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Inb4 "read On Authority, a book I haven't read, and if I read it I'd realize it was not pro-authoritarianism but actually anti-pacifism"

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, no.

As an anarchist, it’s just authoritarianism.

Fuck your hierarchies and top-down systems of oppression. Fuck supporting genocidal dictators.

Go read the conquest of bread and liberate yourself.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

If you do not understand that there is a need for some authorities, you are both fucking stupid and a terrible anarchist.

Do better. Anarchy is about identifying what authority must exist and in what form it would best exist. If your answer is, "all authority is bad." Then you have failed. Try again.

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

“YoUr NoT aN aNaRcHiSt unless you want to be stepped on by a cop.

Haha, very funny now fuck off kid.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

You are fundamentally too stupid to be an anarchist. You have to strawman what I said to even respond. You are truly pathetic.

How about you demonstrate some of that anarchist wisdom and tell me how you'd arrest a murderer that doesn't want to be arrested. Someone, including random other citizens at the time of need, needs the authority to forcibly stop them, you fucking idiot. Authority still needs to exist with or without cops.

Again, you fucking idiot. Defending the necessity of authority shouldn't implicitly defend police unless you have a child's understanding of anarchist theory.

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Just fuck off kid.

No one cares about your internet temper tantrum.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Your inability to logically engage is pathetic. You cannot even defend yourself. You're a joke. Do better.

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

You love proving me correct. Keep going.

[–] Stamau123@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago (2 children)

'Leftists' like N Korea, China, and Russia supports make me ashamed to be a leftist. This is what happens when all your leaders die 40 years ago, the movement gets silly.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Don't be ashamed to be a lefty. Shame THEM for dare calling themselves leftists while espousing polite words for autocrats and dictators. They are pathetic and a detriment to progress and they need to know it.

[–] socsa@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago

And get banned for questioning orthodox bullshit

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Idk the leaderless portions can be silly but we feed people to feed people, we fix up bikes to fix up bikes, we send prisoners books and propaganda to help prisoners. We may not be perfect, and our terminally online portions are terminally online, but we’re out there helping the proletariat.

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 4 points 11 months ago

That’s like a republican saying “we donated to a charity” while pushing for a bill that would restrict black peoples right to vote.

You can’t claim to be helping us while in the same breath actively working for our long term oppression.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

What kind of action are you referring too? What more can we do?

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They went so far authoritarian left, they ended up authoritarian right.

[–] Shotgun_Alice@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I guess that makes me an extremist.

[–] Stamau123@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Alivrah@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

Be gay, do crime

[–] FarraigePlaisteach@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago

Wishing you lots of extreme affection.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

It makes my daughter an extremist and she's 13.

[–] Shotgun_Alice@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago
[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 26 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I've said it before, I'll say it again: one can usually tell who the good guys are by how they treat LGBT people.

[–] electrogamerman@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

one can usually tell who the good guys are by how they treat ~~LGBT people~~ others different than them.

FTFY

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

LGBT people are a convenient metric because they are a minority that exists everywhere in every society. It's how they treat a subset of their own. There's a lot more factors regarding how societies treat outside groups, if and how they encounter them.

[–] electrogamerman@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

True, but for example im a gay man and according to the original description, I would be a good guy if I treated LGBT members right, but of course I treat them right because im part of them.

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I see, I was thinking of nations and groups more than individuals when I made that comment. Not every LGBT person treats LGBT people well, Roy Cohn comes to mind.

[–] electrogamerman@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Well, you are right that not every lgbt person treats lgbt persons right, which is crazy

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

“Stop being so fucking gay and go throw a bunch of dead kids in a hole!” —Putin

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We all know that putin sucks dicks on the DL.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago

And diddles little boys.

[–] S410@kbin.social 10 points 11 months ago

Surely this will lead to the EU and other progressive countries to open up the borders for Russians fleeing the oppression, right? Right?

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

To any good Russians that are left, it is way past time to start ambush killing FSB enforcers & it is literally self defense at this point.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Russia says it has a constitution but it's obviously a joke.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


MOSCOW, Nov 30 (Reuters) - Russia's Supreme Court ruled on Thursday that LGBT activists should be designated as extremists, in a move that representatives of gay and transgender people fear will lead to arrests and prosecutions.

A Reuters reporter in court heard it announce that it had approved a request from the justice ministry to recognise what it called "the international LGBT social movement" as extremist and to ban its activities.

President Vladimir Putin, expected shortly to announce that he will seek a new six-year term in March, has long sought to promote an image of Russia as a guardian of traditional moral values in contrast with a decadent West.

In a speech last year, he said the West was welcome to adopt "rather strange, in my view, new-fangled trends like dozens of genders, and gay parades" but had no right to impose them on other countries.

"Of course it’s very alarming, and I don’t remember the threat ever being so serious and real," Alexei Sergeyev, an LGBT activist in St Petersburg, told Reuters TV in an interview earlier this month.

Previous listings, for example of the Jehovah's Witnesses religious movement and organisations linked to opposition politician Alexei Navalny, have served as a prelude to arrests.


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