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Swastikas still linger on some flags in Finland's air force, but are on the way out (apnews.com)
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[–] otter@lemmy.ca 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Some more context

The history of the Finnish air force’s use of the swastika, which since the 20th century has largely been associated with Nazi tyranny and hate groups, is more complex than at first appearance. It is an ancient symbol and Finland’s air force began using it many years before the birth of Nazi Germany.

Change has been underway for years. A swastika logo was quietly pulled off the Air Force Command’s unit emblem a few years ago. But swastikas have remained on some Finnish air force flags, raising eyebrows among NATO allies, tourists and other foreigners who spot them at military events.

“We could have continued with this flag, but sometimes awkward situations can arise with foreign visitors. It may be wise to live with the times, Col. Tomi Böhm, the new head of Karelia Air Wing air defense force, was quoted as saying in a report Thursday by the public broadcaster YLE.

[–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 days ago

It may be wise to live with the times,

Would have been wise decades ago, despite the usage being unassociated

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago (-7 children)

Speaking as somebody raised Buddhist, it would be nice to reclaim our symbols from the fucking Nazis, not give in to them even more.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (9 children)

They’re not “your” symbols. They’ve been used the world over for thousands and thousands of years.

The Nazis used them because they were found in the ruins of the recently discovered ancient city of Troy, and they tried tying it into their Aryan pseudo-history as justification for invading so much land.

This myth that they used Hindu imagery needs to end, much the same as the Hugo Boss misinformation that’s so common.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I'm no longer Buddhist. I meant 'our' as in non-nazi humanity, though I can see how my words could have come across differently.

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[–] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 days ago

Raising eyebrows among NATO fucking scrubs that should learn some history

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The Navajo stopped using it in the 40's, and it was an actual sacred symbol for them, and not just some shit some dude thought looked cool in 1910.

[–] khaleer@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 days ago

Just change it, it's just a colorfull rag with pattern.

People who get emotionally connected with colorfull rags have some problems to solve.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I suppose it's better than the alternative

[–] Linktank 5 points 4 days ago

TIL Finland is the Slowpoke meme.