Asklemmy

They would build a wall against Florida.

California, Hawaii, Oregon, and Washington should secede and form a new Pacific States. The rest of Gilead can lie in the bed they made.

Sure, except you get all the same issues with countries not getting along, and now something the federal government could handle, like a space program, has to either be done redundantly by all the states separately which is wasteful and might render the whole thing impractical, or in some politicised clusterfuck of an international organisation.

There's a reason the trend has been towards less sovereign countries and borders over time.

I'm not living in the US but i think it would be a good idea. The most obvious, biggest benefit is the very different directions that people in the US want to take. It's just very clear that the lifestyle differences between rural and urban US are practically irreconciliable. You can't have one country when people want to tear it apart.

I think financially, it wouldn't really make a lot of differences. The people would have to pay their taxes directly to the state, instead of the federal government, which is a manageable step. I think the blue states might draw a tiny financial advantage from it, while the rural areas would possibly suffer a medium-sized disadvantage, because today, most blue states pay more in taxes than they receive back, and vice-versa for rural areas. But i suspect the issue might balance itself out over time with internal reforms in the rural areas.

Before we go this drastic, can we increase our representation in congress? 435 isn’t enough. Using a number determined about 100 years ago has forced congressional members to represent more and more people, helping to polarize the house.

• Hawaii, Texas, Alaska, and California become independent countries.
• New England and New York join Canada.
• Washingon and Oregon also join Canada.
• New Mexico joins Mexico

The rest becomes an overseas territory of Australia.

My work here is done.

There's the concept from Nine Nations of America and various similar concepts looking at how the boundaries shown on maps do not necessarily reflect the demographic reality. I've wondered for years about the possibility of a sort of 'hyper-federalism,' taking the idea of federalism (having a local 'state' government and a national 'federal' government) a bit further, empowering not just towns to have councils but neighborhoods, and nesting the local within the broader form. (e.g. X voters and their living space form a 'district.' Representatives from X districts form a 'locale.' Representatives from X locales form a 'region.' etc.) It's obviously just my random thought but I wonder sometimes if it could be developed into something usable.

as long as they all have a nuke silo per state

If this happens I hope the balkanization will be along Indigenous territories as part of decolonization efforts and not modern states or provinces.

Divided we fall. Seriously though.

States like New York, California, etc. have been subsidizing states like West Virginia, Oklahoma, etc. for some time. If we split it up in perhaps the most likely way (along political groupings) the poorer states would not be in for a good time.

Addendum: if we were to do the split right now, we might also see the rise of a few virulently and openly fascist countries.

California and the other rich blue states funds the rest of the US’ poor ass states, so I'd love for them to stop suckling on our teat.

Communities are much better at identifying and coming up with solutions for their own needs than a faraway capitol could ever be. Linking communities by bioregion (instead of existing state lines) and having them cooperate to make larger decisions would be a workable alternative.

You might find interesting: Seeing Like a State by James C. Scott, The Next Revolution by Murray Bookchin and others.

I think the concept is good, that's literally the design our government was created for. United States. We don't have provinces, we have states

It's going to be a huge mess, but I think that's the most likely path

I know of one shill who talks about a possibility of America splitting into five regions, each with their own government structure. He thinks they'll be split up in 2026, and that Trump would be the final US president.

I don't know how that'll turn out, and neither does my producer, who told me about what this shill said. Likely some dirtbag from the Roman Catholic reserves of Christofascism.

Yes. I've been slowly advocating for the west of North America to break away from the greedy East stuck in the past. We embrace the future on the west coast and we hold a lot of resources and links to the world through the Pacific. It's about time we get what we deserve and stop being dictated to by the East Coast conservatives.

Bring in Alaska, BC, and the Yukon and we are golden! We'd hold some serious power if we could ever reach out and take it.