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I'll update this post as selections are announced. If I miss anything, feel free to comment!

All times Eastern.

Saturday, December 16th

Bowl Team Team Notes
Myrtle Beach Bowl Georgia Southern Ohio 11:00 AM, ESPN, Brooks Stadium, Conway, SC
Cricket Celebration Bowl Howard Florida A&M 12:00 PM, ABC, Mercedes-Benz Stadium, Atlanta, GA
R+L Carriers New Orleans Bowl Louisiana Jacksonville State 2:15 PM, ESPN, Ceasars Superdome, New Orleans, LA
Avocados from Mexico Cure Bowl Appalachian State Miami (OH) 3:30 PM, ABC, FBC Mortgage Stadium, Orlando, FL
Isleta New Mexico Bowl New Mexico State Fresno State 5:45 PM, ESPN, University Stadium, Albuquerque, NM
LA Bowl Hosted by Gronk Boise State UCLA 7:30 PM, ABC, SoFi Stadium, Inglewood, CA
Radiance Technologies Independence Bowl Texas Tech Cal 9:15 PM, ESPN, Independence Stadium, Shreveport, LA

Monday, December 18th

Bowl Team Team Notes
Famous Toastery Bowl Western Kentucky Old Dominion 2:30 PM, ESPN, Jerry Richardson Stadium, Charlotte, NC

Tuesday, December 19th

Bowl Team Team Notes
Scooter's Coffee Frisco Bowl Marshall UTSA 9:00 PM, ESPN, Toyota Stadium, Frisco, TX

Thursday, December 21st

Bowl Team Team Notes
Roofclaim(dot)com Boca Raton Bowl South Florida Syracuse 8:00 PM, ESPN, FAU Stadium, Boca Raton, FL

Friday, December 22nd

Bowl Team Team Notes
Union Home Mortgage Gasparilla Bowl UCF Duke 6:30 PM, ESPN, Raymond James Stadium, Tampa, FL

Saturday, December 23rd

Bowl Team Team Notes
Camellia Bowl Arkansas State Northern Illinois 12:00 PM, ESPN, Cramton Bowl, Montgomery, AL
Birmingham Bowl Georgia Tech Troy 12:00 PM, ABC, Protective Stadium, Birmingham, AL
Lockheed Martin Armed Forces Bowl James Madison Air Force 3:30 PM, ABC, Amon G. Carter Stadium, Fort Worth, TX
Famous Idaho Potato Bowl Utah State Georgia State 3:30 PM, ESPN, Albertsons Stadium, Boise, ID
68 Ventures Bowl South Alabama Eastern Michigan 7:00 PM, ESPN, Hancock Whitney Stadium, Mobile, AL
SRS Distribution Las Vegas Bowl Northwestern Utah 7:30 PM, ABC, Allegiant Stadium, Las Vegas, NV
Easypost Hawai'i Bowl San José State Coastal Carolina 10:30 PM, ESPN, Clarence T.C. Ching Athletics Complex, Honolulu, HI

Tuesday, December 26th

Bowl Team Team Notes
Quick Lane Bowl Bowling Green Minnesota 2:00 PM, ESPN, Ford Field, Detroit, MI
SERVPRO First Responder Bowl Texas State Rice 5:30 PM, ESPN, Gerald J. Ford Stadium, Dallas, TX
Guaranteed Rate Bowl Kansas UNLV 9:00 PM, ESPN, Chase Field, Phoenix, AZ

Wednesday, December 27th

Bowl Team Team Notes
Military Bowl Presented by GoBowling(dot)com Tulane Virginia Tech 2:00 PM, ESPN, Navy-Marine Corps Memorial Stadium, Annapolis, MD
Duke's Mayo Bowl North Carolina West Virginia 5:30 PM, ESPN, Bank of America Stadium, Charlotte, NC
DIRECTV Holiday Bowl Louisville USC 8:00 PM, FOX, Petco Park, San Diego, CA
TaxAct Texas Bowl Oklahoma State Texas A&M 9:00 PM, ESPN, NRG Stadium, Houston, TX

Thursday, December 28th

Bowl Team Team Notes
Wasabi Fenway Bowl SMU Boston College 11:00 AM, ESPN, Fenway Park, Boston, MA
Bad Boy Mowers Pinstripe Bowl Miami (FL) Rutgers 2:15 PM, ESPN, Yankee Stadium, New York, NY
Pop-Tarts Bowl NC State Kansas State 5:45 PM, ESPN, Camping World Stadium, Orlando, FL
Valero Alamo Bowl Oklahoma Arizona 9:15 PM, ESPN, Alamodome, San Antonio, TX

Friday, December 29th

Bowl Team Team Notes
TaxSlayer Gator Bowl Clemson Kentucky 12:00 PM, ESPN, EverBank Field, Jacksonville, FL
Tony the Tiger Sun Bowl Oregon State Notre Dame 2:00 PM, CBS, Sun Bowl Stadium, El Paso, TX
Autozone Liberty Bowl Iowa State Memphis 3:30 PM, ESPN, Simmons Bank Liberty Stadium, Memphis, TN
Goodyear Cotton Bowl Classic Ohio State Missouri 8:00 PM, ESPN, AT&T Stadium, Arlington, TX

Saturday, December 30th

Bowl Team Team Notes
Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl Penn State Ole Miss 12:00 PM, ESPN, Mercedes-Benz Stadium, Atlanta, GA
Transperfect Music City Bowl Auburn Maryland 2:00 PM, ABC, Nissan Stadium, Nashville, TN
Capital One Orange Bowl Florida State Georgia 4:00 PM, ESPN, Hard Rock Stadium, Miami, FL
Barstool Sports Arizona Bowl Toledo Wyoming 4:30 PM, The CW, Arizona Stadium, Tucson, AZ

Monday, January 1st

Bowl Team Team Notes
ReliaQuest Bowl LSU Wisconsin 12:00 PM, ESPN2, Raymond James Stadium, Tampa, FL
Cheez-It Citrus Bowl Iowa Tennessee 1:00 PM, ABC, Camping World Stadium, Orlando, FL
VRBO Fiesta Bowl Oregon Liberty 1:00 PM, ESPN, State Farm Stadium, Glendale, AZ
Rose Bowl Presented by Prudential Michigan Alabama 5:00 PM, ESPN, Rose Bowl Stadium, Pasadena, CA, CFP Semifinal
Allstate Sugar Bowl Washington Texas 8:45 PM, ESPN, Caesars Superdome, New Orleans, LA, CFP Semifinal
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[–] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 13 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Michigan, Washington, Florida State, Texas

[–] Sage_the_Lawyer@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I think this has to be it. There's no way to justify putting an SEC team in over any of these teams this year. Undefeated conference champs are all locks, regardless of how you feel about strength of conferences, you just can't leave out a P5 team that literally hasn't lost unless there's 5 of them. So, last spot is between Texas, Bama, Georgia, Ohio State.

All have fairly similar resumes, except one of them is a conference champion, and beat another one head to head. That puts them over the top.

You could argue (correctly) they also have the worst loss of the 4, but I think the positives outweigh the negatives, and that was in a rivalry game where things are always a little weird. And it's not like Oklahoma is outright bad. Plus it took some last second heroics. While it's the worst loss of those 4, it's not a bad loss. So I think you have to put in the conference champion.

So, sorry SEC fans, it's your turn to learn how it feels to have a team that's probably good enough to win left out of the playoffs. That's how it goes.

Edit: welp, I was wrong. FSU got screwed. That's disappointing. Can't wait for a real playoff.

[–] g0d0fm15ch13f@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There's just no way an sec team isn't in I think

[–] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They are certainly campaigning for us to all believe that. Maybe NOT this time.

[–] g0d0fm15ch13f@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Michigan, Washington, Alabama, FSU, Texas.

Top 5, in that order.

[–] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Texas beat Alabama in head to head.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Yes they did. And that's one criterion they can use amongst many. It's generally used for tiebreakers.

I also think they'll consider Alabama the better team right now, without the need for a tiebreaker. I also think they'll use FSU on purpose to create separation so they can avoid the tie-breaker discussion.

Edit: Can we leave downvoting for disagreeing on the other site? If you don't like conversation, what are you even doing here?

[–] ToasterOverlord@fanaticus.social 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Can we leave downvoting for disagreeing on the other site? If you don't like conversation, what are you even doing here?

I'm with you there. Disappointing to see them being used by some folks for disagreement. (FWIW, I do think you have a bad take in this argument, but it doesn't merit downvotes)

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

And it looks like I was wrong. But I was definitely not expecting Texas to jump FSU. That actually shocks me a bit.

Just for the record, I did think they were going to find some way to put Alabama in and justify it. But I was not expecting it like this.

[–] WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Strength of schedule is real though. Who cares if FSU is undefeated they've only played two ranked teams this season.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

3, LSU, Clemson, and Louisville

But yeah, the criteria changes constantly. Who would win, who has the best win, head to head, worst loss, conference championship, undefeated, SOS, SOV. It's whatever they feel like.

[–] wjrii@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

Until this year, fairly sensible hierarchy had emerged.

  1. Undefeated P5 champ
  2. 1-loss P5 champ
  3. 1-loss P5
  4. Undefeated G5

Notre Dame would slot in as 1.a or 2.a whenever they had 0 or 1 losses. This is the first time that the unstated guidance wasn't followed. While the Florida fan part of me finds that hilarious, it is also concerning. The dreaded "eye test," which seemed mostly to be eyeing TV ratings, was only used to break ties. The 12-team will have controversies of its own, but at a minimum, almost everyone's argument for who they would have voted number 1 in a poll should be able to get in.

[–] kras@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I hope this stuff with FSU will mean we'll have some new fans saying the 2017 UCF team was also snubbed and should have had a shot.

[–] g0d0fm15ch13f@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

I've always supported ucf's nc claim

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely fucked FSU. Fuck the committee

[–] wjrii@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

Bull Gators must have been saving that Jaden Rashada money for the right day. 😂

[–] Montagge@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I can't wait to find out what bowl the Ducks are going to disappoint me in!

[–] Morcyphr@lemmy.one 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I read somewhere that it's likely the Fiesta vs. Mizzou (meh). And Nix may not play? It doesn't matter much to me at this point. They have already failed in their actual big game, per normal.

[–] Montagge@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago

As is tradition

[–] Khavanon 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Bo Nix announced he will play in the Fiesta Bowl.

[–] Montagge@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

Bo Nix against UW or Bo Nix against any other team?

[–] TheCelticPirate@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

SEC/ESPN money made the playoffs again! The one way to turn Michigan face again this year is putting them against Alabama.

[–] jrbaconcheese@yall.theatl.social 7 points 11 months ago

All the bowls before about Dec 29th sound like an AI made them up.

[–] Manibusan@fanaticus.social 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

ESPN has the same order I do in my head, best teams over most deserving. Michigan and Washington are both tied at 1 for me but Michigan was ranked higher previously so I’m giving them the edge. Would’ve been way more interesting/controversial if Jordan Travis was still healthy and FSU dominated Louisville. We really might not have had an SEC team in the playoff for the first time ever.

  1. Michigan
  2. Washington
  3. Texas
  4. Alabama
  5. Georgia
  6. Florida State

For Clemson, it’s looking like the Holiday Bowl against either Oregon State or USC. I’m fine with either school. The matchup against DJU would’ve been an interesting one and the Riley Bowl matchup would be fun. Never played the Beavers before but we’d have a chance to avenge our lone loss to the Trojans back in checks notes 1966.

Good luck to everyone, may the Bowls be ever in your favor!

[–] wjrii@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Rose Bowl Presented by Prudential Michigan Alabama 5:00 PM, ESPN, Rose Bowl Stadium, Pasadena, CA, CFP Semifinal
Allstate Sugar Bowl Washington Texas 8:45 PM, ESPN, Caesars Superdome, New Orleans, LA, CFP Semifinal

Go Gators. With Georgia and FSU left out of the playoff, this season is now like going to a restaurant and having your entree fucked up beyond all edibility, but at the end of the meal they roll out the most exquisite dessert imaginable. Does it make up for the entire evening? No; far from it. It sure as hell helps, though.

[–] g0d0fm15ch13f@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Speak for yourself. The committee putting alabama in makes me beyond sad

[–] wjrii@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I have no love for them, but they're just sort of this annoying thing that exists, taking up too much space. Y'all and Auburn can send all the bad vibes their way.

[–] g0d0fm15ch13f@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Believe you me, we're trying

[–] wjrii@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And now that my initial schadenfreude giggling has subsided, yes, the "right" thing to have done would be to leave out Bama too, but we always suspected that the committee leans Resume versus Eye-Test largely based on which brings more eyeballs to the CFP; they just never had to bring down the axe on an undefeated P5.

Funny how this will work completely fine for the narrative of justifying the 12-team playoff 🤔. For the record, I support that anyway. Most bowls have been silly exhibitions a lot longer than fans like to admit.

And, in conclusion, BWAHAHA! Fuck 'em.

[–] g0d0fm15ch13f@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Fwiw I still think that a poll is the best way to crown a nc in this sport. It's silly to pretend that florida and San Diego State have the ability to compete on an even level head to head in a tournament format. But if SDSU were to have an immaculate season, why shouldn't they be considered the best performing team in the country? Imo, the nc doesn't need to be the "best" team so much as the team that accomplished the most.

[–] wjrii@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

Structurally, the idea of a NC in this sport is very stupid. No one can even agree on what we're rewarding, whether it's with a poll of hundreds to crown a champ or a poll of 13 to decide who gets invited to a tournament. There's too much structural inequality to silence the "eye test" people, too few data points to silence the "win who you play" people. I was a kid before the BCS came around, but I was paying enough attention to know how unsatisfying people found THAT system, and while the debates will continue, I think a larger playoff becomes its own reward in a way, and something in the 8-16 range should gather up every reasonable candidate from all schools of thought without completely gutting the regular season.

Also, it's time to compensate the players in return for their giving up some mobility. It's the worst of all worlds right now.

[–] hardaysknight@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

FSU getting left out is crazy, but Michigan even being eligible is insane to me.

[–] g0d0fm15ch13f@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Gator bowl vs nc state is my guess. Maybe unc? And mayber texas vs wvu? Either way we're getting sponsored by tax software.

[–] g0d0fm15ch13f@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

"Can't spell citrus without ut"