It was too expensive for millennials so, not too surprised to hear that.
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It was too expensive for Gen X too. I think we all started out with room mates.
It was too expensive for Gen X too. I think we all started out with room mates.
Yup.
Up to 4 of them at one point.
After a bunch of years of that, my first solo place was a windowless 2 room basement "suite" in an old house behind a gas station.
2nd story two-bedroom behind a grocery store for me!
Relatable
Same for GenX. We all had roommates or lived with SOs.
I rented a 3-bedroom apartment in the early 2010s for $1250 with some friends. I just checked and similar apartments in that neighborhood are $2500-3900 now
I agree that renting alone wasn't an option for our generations but it's become even worse. Pay has not kept up with housing costs at all
[Edit] I just checked and $1250 in 2010 has the same value has $1,775.54 now
Man one my first apartments in 2001 was 360 a month for one bedroom. This was in a small town Texas.
Today same rent is 1300 plus. That fucking nuts and doest jive with inflation.
$360 in 2001 is $632.80...
Yeah exactly. I paid way to much compared to what I made I later moved to a cheaper place. I made 6.76 an hour and had my own place. Today minimum wage is 7.25 and rent is over 1000.
Our country is fucked.
I think they need to have roommates in the bedrooms now. I saw a basement apartment in Englewood, CO for $1650 this week. Garage extra.
Yes, I agree.
You're just me, but Kbin though.
Owning a home on a single income is too expensive.
Owning a home is too expensive, period.
Renting a home on a single income is too expensive. <--we are here
Renting a home is too expensive.
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gen x here - I had roommates for 15 years or thereabouts after college, and when I finally made it out on my own it was in really shit apartment after ghetto af apartment.
it's not just a gen z issue
Yeah, as an elder millennial, this is just how it is for all of us, unless you live in the middle of nowhere (but then there's no jobs there).
Is there a generation that could afford to rent by themselves in their early 20s? Maybe a room in a flophouse.
I'm gen x and was able to rent a studio on my own for a few years in my late 20's. Then the recession hit and that lifestyle evaporated. These days I live in a vehicle.
That's us. Hey buddy, I just hope you know that I know what it's like, feel free to pm me if you're feeling angry or sad about anything
I appreciate it but I'm doing ok. Fortunately, I foresaw this outcome and prepared for it instead of being forced.
Nope, just media brainwashing us into being pissed at other generations when it's the ultra rich (that just so happen to own medias) that are the real issue.
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The greatest generation spawned the worst one. All of us after them suffer.
The greatest generation had some great marketing. About the only thing that was “great” about them, really.
I for one hope gen z is better than previous generations. They got a lot of trouble coming their way.
Well they did win two world wars, which is two more wars than their idiot children, the boomers managed against weaker opposition.
But thats about it for their achievements.
I never felt fighting in a war was inherently honorable of valorous- its not necessarily a thing to be ashamed of, either. that either war broke out was a failure of diplomacy (and of willful desire... lets not forget there were people on both sides- in both wars- spoiling for a fight.)
In any case, they also were responsible for McCarthyism and the Red Scare; the Dixiecrats and opposition to civil liberties... and plenty of other unpleasantness. No. the name is hyperbolic- they weren't some super-human distilled-goodness sort of group. They were just... people. Some were more-bad, and some were more-good. Most had the good and the ugly in equal spades- like every other generation.
I believe the greatest generation is yet to come. Might be gen z. Might be the kids they raise. But we'll see.
Are you both sidesing Hitler lol? We let him get away with a ton of shit to try and avoid a war.
No. far from it. and you're right. there was a lot of appeasement that happened. (Austria, Czechoslovakia. Poland...) and while france, the UK and the USSR were all down for appeasement... there were plenty of people who were very hawkish and wanted a more direct military confrontation- Churchill became a very unpopular figure for his opposition to Appeasement, for example. I'm also pretty sure Stalin himself outright hated Hitler (I do know Hitler hated Stalin with a passion... including fucking over their momentum to break the non aggression pact. Ostensibly they needed oil. They could have steamrolled the middle east, who were armed with ww1-era cast offs. his military leadership wanted to do just that.)
US became Isolationist after ww1, but even before the war, FDR was hawkish- but restricted by the neutrality acts. Which he flouted all the same to supply China against the japaneese in '37. FDR did manage to get some concessions the acts (like cash-and-carry); and eventually got them repealed with lend-lease. As much as Americans showed up late and took credit anyhow. (heh.) one of the critical factors leading to an allied victory in ww2 was the allied industrial output. IIRC, the US alone was outproducing the entire Axis- for examples, the US commissioned 140 carriers and 18 or so battleships (we dove head first on carriers,) Japan had 15 carriers and 10 battleships. we similarly outpaced them on subs (though our subs were very different than the German raiders.) we also outpaced on tanks, aircraft (fighters, bombers...) weapons. munitions.
Something to think about... because I see a lot of parallels with Ukraine, and the Spanish Civil War. Including that both HItler and Putin are not mere assholes. but assholes.
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In the UK they implemented the NHS, State pensions and national housing.
The boomers are doing their best to fuck all of that up for us though.
How many people are renting alone? I dunno anyone who can afford that.
My cousin does it, but he makes 6 figures, so hes not exactly the most struggling person. Basically if you work a regular ass job, the likely hood of being able to afford rent alone is pretty low.
Depends on the part of the country
Typical rent in my city is like $1000-1500 for an entire 2 bedroom house. Even my brokest friends have their own place.
San Francisco or NYC? Enjoy your 150sqft shithole for $3k/mo.
Yes. Rent is cheaper in undesirable places to live. This is not surprising to anyone.
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I mean.. I couldn’t afford my own apartment until I was in my late 20s and all the places I lived in until my 30s were shitholes.
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It was too expensive for me, a 28 year old, 10 years ago.
Absolutely no way I could have afforded an apartment on my own and it's only gotten worse since then.
Article title is “Renting alone in Miami is too expensive for Gen Z”.
That aside, it does have some interesting statistics about Gen Z moving back home and Boomers moving to apartments.
I knew 2 dudes who rented alone. Both of them lived in shitholes and paid a fuckton for it.
It has ALWAYS been too expensive for the vast majority of Americans to rent their own place, for ALL the generations.
My greatest/silent generation grandparents never had their own places.
My boomer parents never rented their own place solo.
My Gen-X ass has only rented my own place for 1 brief 6month period in a VERY low cost of living area, and then again for a couple years after a divorce at which time I was 20years into a very high paying career, so I don't think it's a terribly valid example for the majority of Americans.
I'm not saying housing costs aren't too high, they absolutely are! But this is nothing new. And frankly it's annoying to keep seeing it posted and harped on constantly as I see it as a distraction from real issues that need to be addressed in the areas of housing costs, pay and healthcare costs that need to be fixed.
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