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Attorney General Ken Paxton Responds to Travis County TRO (www.texasattorneygeneral.gov)

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AUSTIN – The Temporary Restraining Order (“TRO”) granted by the Travis County district judge purporting to allow an abortion to proceed will not insulate hospitals, doctors, or anyone else, from civil and criminal liability for violating Texas’ abortion laws. This includes first degree felony prosecutions, Tex. Health & Safety Code § 170A.004, and civil penalties of not less than $100,000 for each violation, Tex. Health & Safety Code §§ 170A.005, 171.207-211. And, while the TRO purports to temporarily enjoin actions brought by the OAG and TMB against Dr. Karsan and her staff, it does not enjoin actions brought by private citizens. Tex. Health & Safety Code § ¬¬171.207. Nor does it prohibit a district or county attorney from enforcing Texas’ pre-Roe abortion laws against Dr. Karsan or anyone else. The TRO will expire long before the statute of limitations for violating Texas’ abortion laws expires.

Summary: Sure, you can get an abortion now. We are still going to ruin your life, destroy your business, and force you to leave the state to ever work again.

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[-] DocMcStuffin@lemmy.world 78 points 6 months ago

Watch the interview the pregnant woman gave tonight. Watch all of it. She and her husband wanted to have that baby but realized the pregnancy was non-viable and risked her health. There are a lot of women in that same situation but aren't fortunate enough to be able to afford a lawyer. No one should have to go through this kind of cruelty.

[-] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

My understanding is that she in fact has means to leave to the state. She is subjecting herself to their jurisdiction to show the world the cruelty of the laws.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 46 points 6 months ago

If you are pregnant, get out of Texas. If something goes wrong, you're fucked if you want the child or not.

“The idea that Mrs. Cox wants desperately to be a parent, and this law might actually cause her to lose that ability is shocking and would be a genuine miscarriage of justice,” Judge Maya Guerra Gamble said. “So I will be signing the order and it will be processed and sent out today.”

[-] BaronVonBort@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

My wife and I had our first baby in ‘22 and he was a high risk, and both my partner and the baby were at risk towards the end. Thankfully they were both totally fine and healthy but once all the restrictions came across I immediately got a vasectomy because there was no way in hell I was going to risk her health again in this state.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

Texas is not good right now.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

If you are pregnant, get out of Texas.

Also if you could become pregnant. Or you have a partner who could become pregnant. Or you're trans. Or you work in healthcare related to either pregnancy or gender affirming care. Or if you're a teacher.

Honestly I think most people in Texas should just leave before they get on Y'all Qaeda's radar.

[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 28 points 6 months ago

All I know is I am very glad this asshole is still being hounded. Don’t let him get away.

[-] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 22 points 6 months ago

Civil rights? Not in my country!

Texas

[-] protist@mander.xyz 20 points 6 months ago

If the AG or anyone else does pursue criminal or civil penalties, it will 100% be appealed all the way to the Supreme Court, and I genuinely wonder how Comey Barrett, Kavanaugh, and Roberts would rule

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 17 points 6 months ago

Poorly?

[-] protist@mander.xyz 5 points 6 months ago

While I strongly disagree with many of their rulings, I also don't share your pessimism. Kavanaugh in particular has demonstrated he's not a conservative absolutist

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

That may well be, but he's still a disgrace to his title. That being said, whether or not they choose an agreeable stance, their logic will be pointless and invalid.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Depends on who paid them off last, and how much.

Oh. You meant “poorly” as in the decision was bad, not poor as in, no money,

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 3 points 6 months ago

I think they’ll uphold the restraining order and maybe strike down the most egregious anti abortion laws.

Republicans have been getting decimated in recent elections, and a lot of that has to do with abortion. If the conservatives on the Supreme Court can help them by getting that issue off the table I think they’d do it.

It just adds to their illegitimacy, but they’ll do it

[-] vitamin@infosec.pub 10 points 6 months ago

She should just travel out of state and get the medical procedure she needs. At this point she's just a pawn in a political game. Take texas out of the equation. They can't threaten doctors or hospitals that way.

[-] aphlamingphoenix@lemm.ee 9 points 6 months ago

If she has the money to do it. Travel is expensive. Sounds like she's already got two kids, too.

Texas also has a statute that would then open her and anyone who helped her do this to civil liabilities. iirc, anyone can sue her for like 10 grand. Not sure that's been tested yet, but it's at least not something I would want to open myself up to.

Texas is a fucked up place. I'm glad I got out when I did.

[-] Pretzilla@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Paxton is going after the husband too

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