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Scientists Have Reported a Breakthrough In Understanding Whale Language (www.vice.com)

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Scientists Have Reported a Breakthrough In Understanding Whale Language::Researchers have identified new elements of whale vocalizations that they propose are analogous to human speech, including vowels and pitch.

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[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 110 points 6 months ago

Sokath, his eyes uncovered.

[-] tabular@lemmy.world 45 points 6 months ago

Temba. His arms wide.

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 18 points 6 months ago

Kadir beneath Mo Moteh.

[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

I'm too drunk to taste this chicken

[-] FrostyTrichs@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!!!

[-] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago

Will and Gracie, in the tank.

Chekov, finding Alameeda

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[-] balder1991@lemmy.world 110 points 6 months ago

Not only did the AI predict elements of whale vocalizations already thought to be meaningful, such as clicks, but it also singled out acoustic properties.

This is an amazing use of machine learning models.

[-] SuckMyWang@lemmy.world 65 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Can’t wait for them to tell us to stop being fuckheads and ruining the planet

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 35 points 6 months ago

"So long and thanks for all the fish"

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 23 points 6 months ago

"end capitalism"

[-] voluble@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

NOC's vocalizations were recorded and studied by a team of biologists from the National Marine Mammal Foundation (NMMF) led by Sam Ridgway. In 1984, Ridgway and others at the NMMF began to hear peculiar sounds coming from the whale and dolphin enclosure. They were reminiscent of two people talking in the distance, the words just beyond the limit of comprehension.[5] Later, a diver working in the enclosure came to the surface after he heard someone cry "out, out, out!"[1] After he asked his colleagues "Who told me to get out?", they realized it had been NOC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOC_(whale)

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[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The Orcas seem to have already started.

[-] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 6 months ago

Imagine if we managed to make a translator for the speech of an animal, knowing what they say and being able to say something back. Literally speaking with animals. That would have been so amazing and revolutionizing.

[-] MyDogLovesMe@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago

Honestly? We’d just fuck it all up, and find some way to exploit it.

If they could, the first words they speak to us would likely be akin to “Fuck you!”, or “Just what the fuck exactly is wrong with you people?”

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[-] Yearly1845@reddthat.com 10 points 6 months ago

"Do you think the human chattering means anything?"

First translation

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[-] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 77 points 6 months ago

Hell yeah, I hope it works for orcas too so I can thank the ones that have been trashing the yachts.

[-] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 30 points 6 months ago

How do I say “I support my seafaring cetacean brethren” in Orca?

[-] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

I'm learning how to sail right now. It would be great to have that sorted out before I make my way by Gibraltar.

[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

Huge rock, can't miss it.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 71 points 6 months ago

So what I'm hearing is they can literally talk to each other in a way that we do and we still kill them constantly.

[-] theherk@lemmy.world 66 points 6 months ago

We kill humans constantly too, and we probably obliterated the rest of the hominins also. I’m just saying we have a chequered track record.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 37 points 6 months ago

Are we the baddies?

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[-] Haggunenons@lemmy.world 65 points 6 months ago

This is big news! We've got a lemmy community specifically about Digital Bioacoustics (technology and animal communication) for anyone interested.

!digitalbioacoustics@lemmy.world

Https://Lemmy.world/c/digitalbioacoustics

[-] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 36 points 6 months ago

Oooh, look! The translation's coming through!!

Thanks... for... all... the...

...

For what? Thanks for all the what?!

[-] m3t00@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago

[-] 69420@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

Ovaltine

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[-] thejml@lemm.ee 35 points 6 months ago

“I wish I could speak whale!” - Dory

[-] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

Oooooooookayyyyyyy

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 28 points 6 months ago

"So Long, and thanks for all the fish"

[-] ExLisper@linux.community 28 points 6 months ago

They probably have nothing interesting to say anyway. After a year or two all the scientists will be like "I fucking know you like krill, whale. Shut the fuck up about the krill already".

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 38 points 6 months ago

[Arthur Dent] learned to communicate with birds and discovered that their conversation was fantastically boring. It was all to do with wind speed, wingspans, power-to-weight ratios, and a fair bit about berries.

-- Douglas Adams, 'Life, the Universe, and Everything.

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 18 points 6 months ago

I kind of still want to know what I'm sleeping to.

[-] Cqrd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 6 months ago

Horny whale noises

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[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 26 points 6 months ago

What they're saying is: "All shall perish" as they proceed to kill people and smash yachts.

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 35 points 6 months ago

Flippity floppity y'all on my property

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[-] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago

Gracie is pregnant.

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[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago

So just fucking say what it is! We know they're intelligent. Just tell us how they all think we're running the planet.

[-] KnightontheSun@lemmy.world 33 points 6 months ago

They've already dispatched Orcas to send that message. We don't seem to be getting it.

[-] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 20 points 6 months ago

Realistically, other whales would probably hate orcas, given they hunt whale calves

[-] KnightontheSun@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago

This statement does not fit my joke.

How can I delete someone else's comment?

[-] crandlecan@mander.xyz 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Write a stern letter to the Internet Committee, explaining your grievances. I'm sure they are happy to assist, especially on cases like this one! 👍

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[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You have to type your password into a comment, post it, and then hop on one leg while refreshing lemmy for 10 minutes. After that, it should delete the user's comment.

[-] KnightontheSun@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

hunter2

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[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

"Yoooooooouuuuuuuu guuuuuuuuuuyyyyyyysssss reallllllllllllyyyyyyy suuuuuuuuuuuuccccccckkkkkk. Exccccceeeept Garrrrrrryyyyyyy. Heeeee'sssss niiiiicccceeeeeeeeeooooooooo." -The Whales probably.

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[-] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

"Who turned up the heat?"

[-] aidan@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago

If complete mutually intelligible communication of complex ideas with another species is undeniably proven, that will be a massive boon for veganism(although of course not all animals are equal), and a legal quagmire. What do you do if they are suffering in ways that we can fix due to their environment? Like humans were, and then we changed our environment. Do you give whales weapons so they can defend themselves from orcas? Do you shoot whale pochers? Do you shoot orcas attacking whales? Do you farm krill for them to eat? Do you drastically alter the ocean surface to be more comfortable for whales?

After all, most people recognize it as good to alter a person's natural state(hunting and gathering from caves) for the better, so would that not be the same for animals that are considered essentially people or near-people?

[-] iegod@lemm.ee 34 points 6 months ago

We don't even treat other humans on earth with dignity and respect and you think anything will change for whales as drastically as you propose? Maybe I'm mega jaded but I see this having little impact.

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[-] paddirn@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

Just in time for them to go extinct. It’ll be helpful in a few hundred years though when we need to travel back in time again.

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