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[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 290 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (19 children)

Firefox doesn't implement the AudioData API, which is probably necessary for the waveform viewer and cropping tool Discord presents in the soundboard management UI.

Not everything is about Chrome DRM yall.

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Yet another experimental API only supported by Chrome. Chrome has always been like this, implementing experimental API that hasn't been finalized yet. You might say they're innovating to support new technologies, but actually it's more like they're doing whatever they pleased, as demonstrated by their removal of jpeg xl support despite web communities plea not to do so (a new more efficient image compression, but not made by Google so screw it), pushing manifest V3 and ad topics, and recent push for web environment integrity API.

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
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[–] webjukebox@mujico.org 108 points 1 year ago (3 children)

And their desktop client technically is a browser without omnibar.

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Electron is not just a browser. It's more like a native app framework that just happens to use HTML and CSS to render UIs. You can do anything the OS lets you do, not just what a browser environment would let you do.

[–] OskarAxolotl@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Electron is an unholy fusion of Chromium and Node.JS. Nothing more, nothing less. It doesn't 'just happen' to use HTML and CSS. It's literally just a browser with most of the default browser UI being hidden. Something like React Native would better fit your definition.

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 14 points 1 year ago

I'm on my lunch break from working on a React Native codebase, and I wouldn't say RN fits that definition at all... but I think we're just getting lost in semantics.

My point was just that a web app running inside a browser has to abide by the rules and limitations set by the browser, whereas Electron flips that relationship -- your app sets the rules and limitations of what can be done, and the web rendering process abides by whatever environment you create. You can do anything the OS permits. Even from inside a web context, if you want. You don't need a browser-managed sandbox to mediate your interactions with the OS.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's not literally just a browser. It's literally just a web engine with a full set of OS calls hooked in. It is not a browser in the same way GNOME is not an OS. A browser comes with a whole lot more than a web engine, so calling it "a browser" is wrong both technically and colloquially.

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[–] Shatter@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

But probably Chromium right? They probably didn't make all Discord functions work for Firefox as that would require some extra work probably.

[–] webjukebox@mujico.org 42 points 1 year ago

Yes, electron.

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[–] FoxBJK@midwest.social 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’m a little baffled by this one. File upload isn’t exactly some new HTML5.1 feature or anything. There’s no good reason they can’t have this handled properly.

[–] mplewis@lemmy.globe.pub 25 points 1 year ago

It’s probably the AudioData API.

[–] Toribor@corndog.social 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I bet if you switch user agents it works just fine.

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 78 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Here's what happens when you spoof a Chrome user-agent.

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[–] mypasswordis1234@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

I ditched Discord a few weeks ago. I moved to Matrix!

[–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not to be discouraging, but i managed to quit discord for a few months, but i returned again, turns out many projects, even open source, use discord for discussion only

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[–] PhiAU@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

codes a desktop OS specific program coded in C just to spite you

To be honest I absolutely hate everything being a browser app.

[–] abfarid@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (6 children)

There's really no reason to be mad at them in this particular instance. Their client is Chromium-based (Electron) so they will optimize their new features for that engine first. There's probably less than 5% users who Discord from browser, let alone Firefox, and I think I'm being generous with that number. Additionally, some things are harder to implement (or even impossible) in native web rather than Electron, that has all the NodeJS integrations.

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[–] walnutwalrus@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

element / matrix instead

[–] jesterraiin@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Press THIS button if you want to enter anyway".

I think I need to fill a patent for this idea, since it's brand new, fresh and nobody has ever heard about it...

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[–] starman@programming.dev 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)

There is FOSS wrapper for discord called webcord, if you have to use discord but want a bit more privacy.

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[–] thecam@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Eventually I can see discord discontinuing their web client to push you users into installing their spyware.

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[–] DasRubberDuck@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Discord is such an obvious "stay the fuck away from" product.

[–] csolisr@communities.azkware.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

With the same critical mass of users that most proprietary social media have, unfortunately. You'll be lucky to find certain communities on Matrix at all.

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[–] pglpm@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I said 'fuck you" to Slack for similar reasons. Going to same the same to Discord now.

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