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[–] ZeroCool@feddit.ch 117 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Third party client support. Specifically alternate web UI's focused on desktop like Alexandrite because if I'm being honest here, I think the comment nesting in Lemmy's offical web UI lacks enough distinction to be useful on desktop (its clearly optimized for mobile browsers). Following conversations can be frustrating on desktop. Without Alexandrite I'd most likely be a mobile app (Voyager) user only.

Edit: No, third party web front ends for reddit do not work anymore. Remember those pesky API changes that went into effect in July and were the entire reason the majority of us are on lemmy now? Yeah, that didn't just kill off third party mobile apps.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 26 points 11 months ago (34 children)

To those downvoting: save the downvotes for comments that aren't productive, this is a pretty reasonable answer

The comment also highlights this same point. The different UI's make it so that everyone can have an experience that they enjoy, mobile and web.

For example, we have these:

  • Uptime history at status.lemmy.ca
  • Mlmym interface at old.lemmy.ca
  • Voyager interface at voyager.lemmy.ca
  • Photon interface at photon.lemmy.ca
  • Alexandrite interface at alex.lemmy.ca
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[–] Ranslite@feddit.de 93 points 11 months ago (4 children)
[–] otter@lemmy.ca 45 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

In all seriousness, all apps and frontends should to implement countermeasures (if they haven't already) so that you can turn off image previews as needed

[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 33 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (7 children)

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[–] Ranslite@feddit.de 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 24 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

The trick is that to embed images in Lemmy, you're basically hot linking them. That means any kind of tracking your average web server can do, is possible through Lemmy's image embedding feature.

I've explicitly disabled any kind of logging for the proof of concept above (it's generated in the fly by the server, not cached on my end, no IP logs or anything) but it's not hard for a malicious user to abuse this. It basically takes your IP address, looks up an estimated town based on some free geoip database you can download, and renders that as text inside an image.

This could be solved by rewriting comments to force image URLs to be loaded through your home server, but I don't know if anyone has started work on that yet.

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[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Didn't new reddit start having that? Never saw it except when not logged in mind you.

[–] Localhorst86@feddit.de 23 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It did, but it was a "premium feature" - paying users would have to "boost" a community to alow them to enable this feature.

Only when enough users boosted, the feature became available. And once that threshold was no longer reached, the feature would go away.

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[–] Ziggurat@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 months ago

Actually that feature isn't even that much abused So here is an useless gif

[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 88 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Separate numbers for upvotes and downvotes.

[–] Bahnd@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Also that up and down votes are not tallied on user profiles. One of the issues with reddit is that if your point of view is unpopular, you cant discuss it on subs that require X amount of karma. Eventually you will be downvoted into being unable to reply. Here, conversation is more open and accounts dont carry a scarlet letter.

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[–] ZeroCool@feddit.ch 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I still remember how annoyed I was when reddit disabled that. It was a useful data point, especially in hobby communities or other places where it can be difficult for newbies to judge the quality of advice/answers they're receiving so I was thrilled to see it here on Lemmy. Going by upvotes alone is not always showing you an accurate picture of a community's reaction to a comment.

[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 21 points 11 months ago

It's why I'm still furious about YouTube removing the dislike count. That single decision has probably led to lots more people getting scammed--and YouTube not getting my premium dollars I would've otherwise gave.

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[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 54 points 11 months ago

No advertising whatsoever; this was a thing on the mobile apps without paying. Nice it looks streamlined and less cluttered too.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 54 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I have app options to choose from!

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (3 children)

This is the biggest one for me.

At some point I stopped using Reddit on the web/desktop and just started to use it on my phone/tablet. I tried different apps, but settled with RIF. Every few years I'd try different apps, but always found my way back to RIF.

Reddit did a bunch of stupid things over the years, but I could happily ignore them and continue to use RIF.

When RIF went away I had to find a new app. The official app wasn't going to work for me. Old Reddit on the phone wasn't going to work for me.

Luckily there are plenty of Lemmy apps. I've settled on Voyager (wefwef) but Boost seems fine too.

Sure, the content has changed a bit, but it's close enough.

For me a good app is key. Lemmy has good apps. I use Lemmy.

So many apps redesign themselves and assume I'll get used to it. In actuality they cause me to wonder, "Do I still need you?" and start looking for alternatives.

That isn't to say that apps can't ever redesign themselves, but so many redesigns seem to follow the latest trend and don't demonstrate a clear understanding of their users.

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[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 52 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

good People

Public viewable Mod Log

Defederation of Bad Instances.

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 45 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Fewer users.
Once a site hits a critical mass of users the amount of content goes up and quality goes down. Once you reach that point it begins accelerating and turns the whole community to trash.

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 15 points 11 months ago

To be fair, this can be offset by sticking to smaller communities. All the large communities on reddit were low quality, but reddit's large userbase allowed a lot of niche communities to exist with an acceptable amount of users. Lemmy (with its smaller overall user numbers) has much better "large" communities, but many of the niche communities barely have enough active users to get by.

[–] PumpkinDrama@reddthat.com 43 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I really like being able to edit the post title and the 6 hour top sort. Although I would like 3 or 4 hours even better.

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 12 points 11 months ago

you can ask for this feature directly to the dev, that what i prefer it to reddit

[–] jacktherippah@lemmy.world 43 points 11 months ago

Federation, no ads, so many third party apps, lil' bit nicer people.

[–] Ziggurat@sh.itjust.works 39 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)
  • Language, you can filter content by language you speak

  • Edit title, If with my broken english and autocorrect, I write down does anybody now about a boardgame for trees ? I can do a ninja edit without deleting the post

  • Interaction with Mastodon (and the rest of the fedi), seriously, imagine being able to answer to a tweet from reddit, with Lemmy you can answer to a toot

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[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 36 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The ability to block entire instances!

Right devs? Right?

[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

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[–] bizzle@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago

Not being a for-profit thing goes a long way toward improving user experience

[–] paradiso@lemm.ee 31 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The community is more mature, less stupid pun chains (pretty sure those are mostly bots at this point), and less presence of interest groups (nefarious or not).

[–] ettyblatant@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well shit, I loved the pun chains!

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[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Little instances of rage bait, karma bait, horny bait and WhOleSomE (fake story) bait

...for now

[–] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 29 points 11 months ago (3 children)
[–] auf@lemmy.ml 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 11 months ago

Yep. This most basic aspect of Lemmy/KBin/MBin is its biggest advantage over Reddit. The fact that no one person, or company/organisation can ever own or control the entirety of the threadiverse is, to me, a huge factor in why I prefer it.

All centralised web based software like reddit is susceptible to exactly the kind of slow death Space Karen is inflicting on Twitter. Federation and decentralisation means that can never happen in the threadiverse.

[–] squirrel@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 11 months ago

3rd party apps

[–] Pratai@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago

A functional selection of apps.

[–] Oha@lemmy.ohaa.xyz 23 points 11 months ago

I can selfhost it

[–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 18 points 11 months ago

It's pretty obvious people aren't talking about apis that must be paid for that are ridiculously restrictively expensive

[–] livus@kbin.social 15 points 11 months ago
  • Federation

  • Decentralized control

  • Viewable moderation logs

  • Absence of CCP army, Hasbara trolls, Russian trolls, corporate shills, etc

  • Editable titles

  • Hashtags

  • Third party apps (on Lemmys)

  • Publicly shareable/subscribeable multi-communities (on Kbin)

  • Automatically remove inactive mods (Kbin)

[–] GroupNebula563@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Well for a start, Lemmy doesn’t, y’know, suck.

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