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While Canadians raced to get vaccinated against COVID-19 early in the pandemic, only 15 per cent of the population had their updated shot this fall. But the virus is still spreading.

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[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

To be fair, it's kind of challenging when you're supposed to wait six months following your last COVID infection...

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I thought it was 3 months for infection and 6 for last shot?

[–] sik0fewl@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago

In Saskatchewan you should wait 6 months, but it needs to be at least 3 months.

I'm sure it varies across jurisdictions, but I copied and pasted it from the MB website.

[–] Templa@beehaw.org 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wait, 6 months?? I never heard about that

That's what they're saying in my province, at any rate:

Beginning in the fall of 2023 for those previously vaccinated against COVID-19, individuals aged 6 months and older are recommended to receive one dose of the new XBB.1.5 formulation of COVID-19 vaccine if it has been at least 6 months from the previous COVID-19 vaccine dose or known SARS-CoV-2 infection (which ever is later).

[–] blindsight@beehaw.org 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Holy hell, that's low. It only cracks 10% uptake at the age 50+ bucket. No wonder I'm hearing about so many people getting COVID this fall.

Only 4% uptake in school-attending ages is ridiculous. Schools are cesspools of disease at the best of times.

[–] oo1@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Is it? you're probably talking 4th or 5th dose at this point. Are many countries really still doing comprehensive booster programmes for all ages?

In my country - for this flu season - the only under 65s who get a booster covid vaccination are those with specific health issues or care workers.

Even looking at a country like Germany that typically have much better health service, it looks like they're limiting the additional annual boosters to mostly over 60s plus special cases at younger ages.

I'd be more worried abut the low uptake in the elderly groups - did they get no booster at all, or did they just not get the xbb 1.5 specifically?
I think there was a bit of a rush and supply chain issues in September with the new variant.

We're at about 68% for over-65s this season as a point of comparison - so that looks way higher than canadian old people as reported in that article.

[–] joshhsoj1902@lemmy.ca 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

In much of Canada flu shots are provided for free annually. So ya it's typical for us to have comprehensive booster programs for all ages.

I imagine regular COVID boosters will continue until COVID is integrated into the standard flu vaccine.

Don't forget that COVID is still killing significantly more people annually than typical influenza.

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 9 points 10 months ago

probably talking 4th or 5th dose at this point

If you haven't learned by now that it's still mutating, you'll never learn. There's been such an effort to try to get that info to people, but unless it's a funny dance on youtok no one sees it.

[–] blindsight@beehaw.org 1 points 10 months ago

The new vaccine for currently-spreading variants have only been available for ~3 months.

It's not like the MMR vaccine where you're done for decades after the primary sequence; you need a current vaccine to match current strains. It's more like a flu shot.

[–] IronKrill@lemmy.ca 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I only got the invitation in November or so, checked the appt. dates near me and they all sucked - far away or during work. I checked again couple of weeks ago and they had way more slots so I managed to get one close by on a weekend, but I could easily see someone not bothering due to the lack of availability.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Can't you just go into a Shoppers and get one? That's what I did. Just a walk-in back in the first week of November

[–] baggins@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

Yes you can. I got a same day appointment at the Rexall near my home.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

At least in MB, appointments were still required last time I checked.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Weird. I live in Ottawa and it was literally just walking into my local SDM. I got it and my annual flu shot at the same time.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sadly unsurprising that this sort of thing is not consistent across the country.

[–] Aceofspades@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

Alberta here. I had no problem walking in to the local pharmacy and getting my COVID booster and flu shot.

Of course, my province probably has the lowest vaccination rate in the country so there is that.

[–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

I was in the same situation as you, but on the Monday before being able to get my shot, I got the 'vid.

So, no shot for me this time around.

[–] dom@lemmy.ca 15 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I wonder how that compares to flu shots.

We got both ours done at once

[–] sik0fewl@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago

Ya, that was my first thought. I wonder how it compares to flu shot and how flu shot compares to previous years.

[–] prodigalsorcerer@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

Over the past two decades, flu shots have had a 25-40% uptake rate per year (source). It's amazing that covid boosters are so much lower than this, though if people were recently infected or vaccinated, then maybe they aren't allowed to get vaccinated with the booster designed for the xbb station yet.

[–] IronKrill@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I got a covid shot but didn't bother with flu. My very uneducated point of view was that flu doesn’t have any serious long term effects and I had heard a few people say the vaccine took them out for a few days, so why bother? As I say though, uneducated on it, anyone think I should?

[–] bob_omb_battlefield@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Flu can have long term effects. Even if you aren't seriously affected you could pass it on to someone who is.

[–] IronKrill@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

Hm. I gave this a quick Google before and came up with nothing, but looking it up now there are several results. Thanks!

[–] yads@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago

You absolutely should. Our family we all experienced some negative effect from the COVID shot (mostly sore arms), not from the flu shot.

[–] Chobbes@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

You should probably get the flu shot. If the flu shot knocks you out for a few days it’s probably better than getting the flu and being more sick for a week. The flu is a more serious illness than we typically think of it. Plus you would help stop the spread to other more vulnerable people, which is nice. The flu shot is one of the best things you can do for public health.

Also for what it’s worth, never been knocked on my ass from a flu shot. I know people who have been, but I think most people aren’t that bothered by it… Just a sore arm and maybe a little achey next day.

[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

The flu can be lethal, I would consider that a pretty long-term effect

[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not surprised when the government tried to pretend that COVID isn't a problem anymore

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No just that. Even stores did away with measures to protect their staff and shoppers: removing clear plexiglass at cash registers, getting rid of hand sanitizer, removing social distancing markers on the floor, etc.

[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because the government isn't madating anything anymore. They're all just pretending like it doesn't exist anymore

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But stores already had these things in place, and the original investment/cost was already spent.

Removing those safeguards seems to have been done out of spite. And to whose benefit? It just creates additional strain on employees, who will get sick more often.

[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

Yeah, but then the staff get sick and they can find some reason to cut their hours or fire them. Then replace them with new hires that are paid less and get less in benefits and compensation.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The timing of invitations this year was awful. We were pretty much through flu season when I got my invitation.

[–] DonPiano@lemmy.ca 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What invitation? I had to proactively remember to get my vaccine.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 11 points 10 months ago

In bc I got a text message and an email letting me know I can book an appointment

[–] sik0fewl@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago

Invitation?

I got mine the end of October. Could've maybe got it a week or two earlier.

[–] twopi@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago

Got mine in October, along with the regular flu shot. I haven't gotten anything yet.

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