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A Los Angeles county sheriff’s deputy shot and killed a 27-year-old woman who had called 911 to report that she was under attack by a former boyfriend, police officials and lawyers for the victim’s family said on Thursday. Records show the deputy had killed another person in similar circumstances three years ago.

On 4 December, Niani Finlayson called police and “reported that her boyfriend would not leave her alone and then screaming and sounds of a struggle could be heard”, the LA sheriff’s department (LASD) said in a statement. When deputies arrived at the apartment in Lancaster, a city in the northern region of LA county, they could hear screaming, LASD said.

Finlayson was inside with her nine-year-old daughter and had been injured by her ex-boyfriend and wanted him removed, her family’s attorneys said. The exact circumstances that led to the fatal shooting are unclear and LASD has so far declined to release body-camera footage.

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[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 148 points 10 months ago (5 children)

fatally shoot

Uh, murder is the word you're looking for

[–] thorbot@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

They “egregiously passed a bullet through the vital matter of a person who probably was the perpetrator they were calling about because they were black.” It’s not murder, it’s just American cops daily quota.

Fuck American cops.

[–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago

The firearm flew out of the officer's holster and bullets were fired. Also, a woman died of acute lead poisoning.

[–] pan_troglodytes@programming.dev 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I doubt it was involuntary.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

“Oops I accidentally emptied my magazine uwu”

[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Damn how did you get your hands on a transcript already?

[–] thorbot@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

It was prophesied

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 2 points 10 months ago

Involuntary voluntary manslaughter

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[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 10 months ago

There's footage to be released next week. I'll wait until then to raise my pitchfork.

[–] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago

You need clarity when it comes to cops, they could also have kneeled on her neck or beaten her to death.

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 80 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The fact that this is the second person this cop has murdered in similar circumstances is fucking appalling. They should have been fired after the first murder.

Honestly, if cops want to keep abusing taxpayer funds, I want monthly "shareholder" meetings where citizens can review the month's performance, and demand changes. Clearly, police administrations are not capable of doing that job and have no accountability.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago

They should have been fired after the first murder.

They should be in prison right now and thus not have the chance to murder this poor woman.

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You could go to city council meetings. But expect to be harassed for it.

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 7 points 10 months ago

Yeah, I've found those to get really hostile, really fast.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 5 points 10 months ago

Imprisoned, not fired.

Cops need to face penalties for abusing their power that are much harsher than what an average person would face, not more lenient.

[–] JCreazy@midwest.social 65 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

All body cam footage needs to be monitored by a third party. Police departments shouldn't have the option of withholding body cam footage. It should be a made available public and made available immediately after the incident.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Simply turning off the body camera for any reason other than bathroom use should be a felony. Stripped of all credentials and banned from participating in any govt agency there is.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If that’s the only time they can turn them off, then they’re gonna have a lot of bathroom breaks.

Besides, what’s the worst that could happen? We find out they need more fiber and don’t wash their hands? Cameras aren’t pointing at the cops.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I was thinking more of public bathrooms for others privacy

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't really matter whose privacy it's for. any exceptions at all creates a space where they can then abuse the fuck out of people. there's really no way around that.

[–] Vacationlandgirl@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Record continuously, with the feed streaming through BT/Wi-Fi connections in the car (the. From the car, streaming in real time, along with every other camera they have,)

The feeds are all monitored in real time by dispatchers. (This would help in crisis response, too, coordinating responding officers better in, for example, an active shooter,)

Cops don’t have access to the main storage, but they get copies for things, so they can’t tamper with it…. And it doesn’t get to be deleted until reviews of the tapes happen.

[–] n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Can the networks even handle this? Every time I see a live stream its 144p @ 2.5 fps

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[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 10 months ago

In the absence of footage or any other direct evidence, anything that cops say in court should be considered a lie. That's the only way to level the playing field in the justice system and to stop effectively rewarding bad/criminal behavior on the part of law enforcement.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's a wonder we ever get the cops involved. From my experience its a real crapshoot.

[–] thorbot@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It’s fine to call the cops if you’re white

I fucking hate American police. ACAB

[–] n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No its not, I was down in Florida on the gulf side, my hotel was right beside a 3 mile bridge cops cut off access to my hotel because of Cynco de mayo (sorry for my butchering) my GF at the time drove around a cop car to get into the hotel, had our room key in my hands to show the officer, told us to keep driving or he was going to arrest for pulling an illegal manuver. Went about 100 yards past em back towards town I got out and walked over to explain we were just getting back from dinner. Cop instantly grabbed his cuffs and had his hand on the gun. Luckily others had complained and hotel staff came out to calm down the cops.

Fuck American cops

[–] thorbot@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

You didn’t get shot. That’s my point

[–] cryostars@lemmyf.uk 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah no white people have ever been murdered by cops

Here's a fun one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Justine_Damond?wprov=sfla1

Yes acab for all of us. They are an enemy of the people

[–] RainfallSonata@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Against Carceral Feminism: Relying on state violence to curb domestic violence only ends up harming the most marginalized women.

[–] Dienervent@kbin.social 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I just don't understand the logic here. Don't get me wrong, I'm all in favor of abolishing the Duluth Model and the requirement to incarcerate someone on a domestic violence call.

But neither this situation, nor the story you linked to seems to have much to do with that policy.

In both situations, the police acted completely out of bounds. It is a completely different problem.

The story on the website was written in 2014 about an incident that happened in 1999, that's almost 25 years ago. It can't be considered relevant today. If there's a real systemic problem of this kind, you should have at least a dozen cases like this every single year.

Hopefully, in this most recent case we'll get some body cam footage released so we find out what really happened.

And also hopefully, the body cams is what will put this guy off the force forever. It's the second time he seems to have done something like this, but I'd bet that the first time, body cams were not standard practice yet.

Seems to me that the solution to stop this kind of thing from being a common problem is body cams, and that's what we have.

[–] bane_killgrind@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago

History is relevant, especially when there hasn't been any significant deviation from the historical status quo.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

And also hopefully, the body cams is what will put this guy off the force forever.

It turns out that doesn't work when the DA's office and/or the courts are just as corrupt as the cops, which is a majority of the time.

Also while we're wishing for things, wish for him to be in prison forever. There is absolutely no reason cops shouldn't face penalties that are at least as harsh as what ordinary people face when they blatantly commit crimes.

[–] Neato@kbin.social 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Only call the cops if you're 100% OK with anyone involved and around being killed. I.e. you're already under threat of death.

[–] The_Cleanup_Batter@lemmy.world 45 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I mean without knowing more information than "she was being attacked by an ex boyfriend in a domestic violence situation" she very well could have been. I don't fault her at all for wanting to call the cops. 100% of the fault lies with the responding officers and the system that allows them to operate with the training and mindset that they have.

[–] ericisshort@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (4 children)

It didn’t seem to me that they were implying the officers are not at fault, but the fact remains that cops cannot be trusted to do the right thing when called and that you could end up dead if you call them as the victim reporting a crime.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Noor shot a woman who called because she thought some one was being raped. These kinds of “mistakes” never should happen.

And they happen way too often,

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[–] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How is the whole US rioting at this point? Curious Frenchy here

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I believe you dropped this: "not"

[–] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 5 points 10 months ago

Ah there it is thank you my young man !

[–] Veedem@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Man, those poor kids. I feel incredibly sad for them.

[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 7 points 10 months ago

At this point it's generally safer to dial 811 in emergencies.

[–] Alph4d0g@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 10 months ago

Never call the police regardless of your ethnicity. Period. They're not going to help. If you don't get shot, they'll look for some pretext to arrest you - even if you're the victim or witness of a crime.

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