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I feel second-hand fear & paranoia on behalf of celebs whose home addresses are public worldwide knowledge.

Anyone can google their address and show up/take pictures/lurk/stalk,

But thankfully most people would never think to do such a thing nor have any inclination to do so,

but the fact that they COULD and sometimes HAVE, is very concerning 😟

I wish sensitive information like that could be kept proprietary and wasn't so easy for anyone in the world to access.

You know as a matter of fact, it's much more difficult to find the address of acquaintances we know in daily life. Which is a good thing.

How terrifying it must b for celebrities, so they have body guards and a security detail and full-fledged security system at their houses 😥 it's exhausting thinking about it.

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[-] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 70 points 6 months ago

When I was a kid we had a phone book, it doxxed everyone with a land line.

[-] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 54 points 6 months ago

If you own your home, it's a matter of public record in most states. Hell, I once used to resolve a disagreement my wife and I were having over our neighbor's name. Just looked up the property address on your county assessors website... They list the owners, when the property was last sold, the appraised value and taxes, and a bunch of other stuff.

Our county even makes marriage licenses searchable online.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 45 points 6 months ago

We called it a phone book.

[-] calypsopub@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Exactly. As a Boomer who grew up in a small town with telephone "party lines" I just can't be arsed to care. Come look in my windows if you need a thrill.

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[-] Limeey@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Seems like a lot of people are unaware of white pages

[-] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yeah, phone books..

In the olden days it was easier to look anyone up, the phone company would deliver a new phone book to everyone's front door twice a year, how could we not all be at least a little fascinated to explore through all those pages and look up people we know from school etc? 😋

nowadays people have to go out of their way with an intention in their mind to go to a website and look people up on whitepages.com or peoplefinder.com etc and last time I noticed years ago, a fee is required to use those kind of sites.

[-] EchoCranium@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 months ago

I remember back in grade school (early 80's) we had lessons about how to use a phone book. Now I'm surprised if I ever see a new one dropped off at the front door.

[-] dojan@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago

Welcome to living in Sweden.

With a quick Google search you can find someone’s home address, income, social security number, birthdate, amount of owned vehicles, political work (if any), size of home, criminal record, and much more!

It fucking sucks for it all to be public information, but websites dedicated to collating it all under one roof is even worse.

[-] angrymouse@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Dafuq, I always thought that personal data was serious business in Sweden, unpleasant surprise

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[-] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 28 points 6 months ago

The nice thing about being a regular person is that very few people have any reason to care.

If you buy something online, the merchant has your name and address. They could come to your house, but why would they?

[-] IonAddis@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

The nice thing about being a regular person is that very few people have any reason to care.

One crazy ex (or, hopefully ex) and one's tune changes quick.

Or sometimes you're born into a shit family, and THEY stalk you when you try to get away.

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[-] dingus@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

In the internet age, it's incredibly easy to look up personal information about people like their address. Sorry, but you likely are easily searchable just like the rest of us.

[-] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

yep, all my lifetime addresses are publicly searchable and easy to find online, but you'd be hard pressed to find me because I don't live at any of those addresses.

[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 14 points 6 months ago

Here in Sweden you can just google a phone number or a name and get the address, a map of the area, an guide to find the right apartment, the persons gender, how many lives in the home, how many vehicles the person owns, the person's age and birthday, the size of their aprtment, the aproximate value of their home, and more without any cost.

This is normal here, and since everyone is listed we don't really think about it.

That being said, I would be quite annoyed if the press did an article on me where they published my home address...

[-] Orbituary@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Well, la-deee-daa! Look at you, with all your safety and security and lack of fear. I bet you even think you're European or something snooty like that.

(jokes from an envious American)

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[-] the_q@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

Sorry but I don't feel any sympathy for celebrities. They gave up the right to privacy the second they started getting free $7000 a bottle wines and iPads for free just because they're famous.

And WTF is up with folks essentially worshipping celebs like Taylor Swift?

[-] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 10 points 6 months ago

The thing that i don't get is, if every celebrity's phone number, adress and whatever got leaked tomorrow, i would visit and or call the just as much as now.

[-] Neato@kbin.social 3 points 6 months ago

People admire those that do things they like. When a LOT of people like the same person it can turn into a feedback loop. Couple that with parasocial relationships and easy communication via the Internet and it can easily blow up. We're also programmed to like people that are popular because others like them.

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 3 points 6 months ago

I got the shit bullied out of me by popular people when I was a kid. As an adult I just assume anyone who's popular is a psychopath

[-] Horsey@kbin.social 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You mean like the phonebook?

[-] charonn0@startrek.website 10 points 6 months ago

I'm not interesting enough to worry about people being unduly interested in me.

[-] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 6 months ago

I was going to jokingly post the coordinates to a White Castle in Chicago, but then I thought it might be interpreted as serious doxxing, and I could get permanently suspended.

So just imagine that I did that, and it was really funny.

[-] bloopernova@programming.dev 6 points 6 months ago

LMAO gotem! (I'm imagining really hard)

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[-] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Celebrities could retire into obscurity, go away and be forgotten, nobody would bother them. But they want and NEED to be hounded, stalked, chased and be the center of attention.

[-] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 months ago

Google has a feature where it'll tell you if your personal information shows up in their index and you can request they remove it from being served.

I can say that my personal information has shown up a few times.

[-] ani@endlesstalk.org 6 points 6 months ago

The phone book is a thing, you know?

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[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Their aspiration/ income is directly tied to how popular they are. You can't have both. They have enough money to hide if they please

[-] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 5 points 6 months ago

That's why i like Daft punk, no one care about them until they put on the mask.

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[-] TechNerdWizard42@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

No celebrity owns the house the live in or stay in. No truly rich person does.

An LLC or more likely a trust owns the house, land, everything they have. And those are owned by other LLCs and Trusts so you can't follow the chain. If someone is doxxed, they go somewhere else. Many places are rented out (think Airbnb) all the time. If you get caught, your agent will "leak" that's just where you were vacationing and the next paparazzi photos will be in different locations on purpose.

Then you do what many do, and buy their real homes in countries that take privacy seriously. When you want an escape, you fly to your real house. No such thing as papparazi, security issues, or anything.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

Slightly annoyed and then I'd move. I live moving and I travel light so it wouldn't be a huge inconvenience.

But I agree that it is terrifying and awful for people who prefer to put down roots or have their lifestyle tied up in being public figures.

[-] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago

Syndrome says in the incredibles, "when everyone is super, nobody is".

In an ideal world, without stalkers, ad companies, doorstop marketers and selling data, it would be much less of an issue if everyone's addresses were public - there would be nothing special about it since everyone's equally exposed.

In today's world though, I'd be terrified AF!

I wonder how many celebrities go to counselling/therapy, looking at all the horrible things people say online, as well as death threats, creeps etc. Must be miserable

Some random but related food for thought: consider Ebay, Amazon and other marketplaces - you're handing over your address, email and phone number to a random seller (on Ebay this includes your order history, public on your profile) and any one of these could sell your private data onwards, potentially exposing some of your online identity to data brokers for advertising or other malicious purposes. Depending on your threat model, online shopping could be a pretty risky thing to use. Amazon used to also make users' wishlists public by default, not sure if that is still a thing

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[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

Depends on how it went. But I'm well armed, and my location honors the castle doctrine, and my town is right pissy about trespassing.

Back when I first got published, I was dumb enough to do so under my real name.

This has led to a few locals seeing my books are the local library, recognizing the name and finding me. They've all been quite polite, so no big deal.

But the truth is that anyone that showed up causing problems isn't going to have a good time. My neighbors are mostly crazier than I am, and we've all had to show up for each other here and there when someone was acting a fool. So, chances are, whatever idiot it was would get run off long before I had to shoot them.

And, since I know most of the damn town to some degree, including the chief of police and the county sheriff, it isn't like an outsider would even be in town long, unless they enjoy the hospitality of a jail. While the police are a problem overall, the local departments have guys in charge that are trying to fix that to some degree. But not to the degree that some assholes from the internet won't end up being seen doing something they can get charged for.

Jesus, being real, I'm certain my one neighbor would likely kill someone if he saw them taking pictures around here without being warned in advance. He's touchy. He might not start out planning it, but he'd be up in their face, and if they didn't just leave, he would try to make them leave. If they fought back? He's a bit touchy, but a whole lot trained.

But yeah, celebrities don't have that kind of connection to their area like private citizens do, and not every private citizen does either. When I lived in the city, I tried being nice to my neighbors and got outright told to fuck off.

[-] satans_crackpipe@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

Were you published for writing tough guy prose?

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[-] NoneYa@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

it’s much more difficult to find the address of acquaintances we know in daily life

Not entirely.

Ever since I bought my home a few years ago, I have been plagued by phone calls from random numbers of people who know my address, my first and last name, and my phone number, as far as I know in terms of personal information goes. The purchase price of my house is also public information which can be something I may not want everyone knowing as well.

I don’t think this should be legal. I understand somewhat why but it’s still creepy and it’s really obnoxious when the “investors” are offering me half of what I purchased. It’s just spam at this point. And I don’t think people should have this much information about me. People I have never met in my life or chosen to do business with (my mortgage company and insurance provider are entities I have chosen).

[-] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I understand somewhat why but it’s still creepy

What ARE the reasons why this is legal?

[-] NoneYa@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

To my knowledge, it mostly comes down to transparency. So that you know exactly who owns what in your area. The idea being that the public has a right to know how much of their region actually belongs to the citizens who actually live there.

Sadly it hasn’t done us much good because companies like Blackrock and Vanguard and people like Bill Gates are buying up all the homes and farmland and the public isn’t doing much to show their displeasure with this despite it being public information.

[-] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

I suppose there's not much the public can do when the property sales happen in private and the only way anyone knows about it is after it's already happened.

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