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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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ALLIES

!abolition@slrpnk.net

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r/ACAB

r/BadCopNoDonut/

Randy Balko

The Civil Rights Lawyer

The Honest Courtesan

Identity Project

MirandaWarning.org

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INFO

A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions

Adultification

Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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ORGANIZATIONS

Black Lives Matter

Campaign Zero

Innocence Project

The Marshall Project

Movement Law Lab

NAACP

National Police Accountability Project

Say Their Names

Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration

 

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[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago (1 children)

WHY DO WE HAVE TO FIGHT FOR THE GOD DAMN VIDEO

[–] themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Right? If only there was a an equipment the cops could have that would empirically verify their story without risk of someone lying (the cops wouldn't do that they're such upstanding people)

Mr Star Trek over here with the fancy future ideas

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

Funny how a video that exonerates a cop gets released same day.

[–] virtueisdead@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 10 months ago

oh boy my home state today!

[–] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

just vote biden he promises to fix this

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/biden-promise-tracker/promise/1519/use-national-commission-address-policing-issues/

"I promise you there will be a national commission on policing out of the White House where I’ll bring everyone to the table, including police chiefs, including civil rights activists, including the NAACP, including the African, the Latino community. We’re going to sit down there and we’re going to work it out." - Joe Biden

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/despite-promise-biden-wont-have-a-national-commission-on-policing-after-all/

[–] Rapture@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Get the fuck out of here right wing troll

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

I don't know @verdantbanana and maybe they're a troll, but I'm farther to the left than anyone in Congress and I ain't arguing. Facts are facts. Biden made that promise, and hasn't delivered, and probably won't.

Joe Biden is a middle-of-the-road political belch. The only thing he has going for him is that he's not Donald Trump.

[–] NovaPrime@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

That somebody is the police. If they're breathing they're lying. Only good pig is a dead pig