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[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 115 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm happy that they're keeping it up, but I've already moved on to the point that even if Reddit were to completely go back on the API change, I wouldn't come back. Personally I've already moved the goal post to where Steve Huffman needs to go before I'd consider ever going back. Reddit is dead for all I care.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Listen there's a whole board at reddit that greenlit every decision he's made. He's not some mad scientist.

The way reddit has decided, as a company, to treat their users over the last 40 days or so, that's enough for me.

Imagine if in the MySpace days we all found out that using MySpace was generating ad revenue for Tom so he could build a torture chamber for puppies. That would have been awful enough that even 20 years later, (holy shit MySpace was 20 years ago) and over a decade after Tom had left the company, we would still feel weird about going there to hang out online, and a lot of us would feel disgust every time we were served an ad on the platform.

What I'm saying, is Steve Huffman kills puppies and even accessing reddit.com is basically condoning puppy torture. Wait, no. What I'm saying is reddit has created a blemish so hideous that I wouldn't, not even if I was like, really really drunk. Ya Digg?

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[–] Archer@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I've been editing and deleting 10+ year old comments to deny them that sweet sweet LLM data. No way for me to go back, and I wouldn't anyway

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[–] Nahvi@reseed.it 6 points 1 year ago

Agreed. It is funny to hear about, but they would have to roll back years of changes for me to even consider it at this point. Since there is no money in that for them it is pretty much a moot point.

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[–] KidDogDad@lemmy.world 91 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just went and looked at r/videos and I gotta admit that the text-only descriptions of videos and enforcing swearing in every post title is pretty funny.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

That's absolutely hilarious

[–] Digester@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

No point in protesting, we already have a better alternative.

[–] tendiemaster69@lemmy.fmhy.ml 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Deliberately using an alternative is a form of protesting.

[–] Digester@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Deliberately using an alternative is a form of protesting.

And it can be, sure, but it's not always the case.

I'm not just using Lemmy until or if Reddit backtracks, I'm using Lemmy because I believe it's the superior platform in many ways and has more to offer. I didn't make an account here in sign of protest, I made one because Lemmy was suggested to me and I'm liking it better than where I came from.

I'm also aware that many users on this platform would go back to Reddit if they backtracked on the API keys.

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[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Yeah, the best protest is a reduction in monthly active users.

[–] fidodo@lemm.ee 54 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's so weird to see all the people still fighting on Reddit when I've already moved on

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I really dont see a point in fighting at this point. Reddit is dead for me.

[–] UnverifiedAPK@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

The point is to trash the site so new users don't join, if they replace the number they lost they can say "hey look, we recovered in only 6 months"

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I haven't even looked back. I have been through this a few times before. Yahoo chat and myspace to Facebook. They aren't EXACTLY the same. But I have seen it enough to know that they clearly aren't listening to their users.

[–] gunslingerfry@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most importantly I think the app devs have moved on. They'd have to do something particularly amazing to lure them back. That's the death knell.

[–] fidodo@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

Yes, I think the biggest mistake spez made was sending all the best devs on the platform directly to his biggest competitor.

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[–] EeeDawg101@lemm.ee 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’m glad to be totally off of Reddit now but I have to say, props to the mods doing this kind of stuff. It’s pretty hilarious

[–] db2@lemmy.one 13 points 1 year ago (16 children)

They're getting no end of grief from bad/paid actors though.

[–] CasualPenguin@reddthat.com 13 points 1 year ago (10 children)

The amount of whinging and bootlicking from people taking Spez's side was insane before I left for good.

[–] claymedia@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It doesn’t seem organic. Protest posts would get 95% upvotes, then suddenly 12 hours later get slammed with bootlickers and downvotes.

[–] shinjiikarus@mylem.eu 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Reddit felt really astroturfed for years now. Start mentioning Neill Druckman in any capacity and your post immediately got flooded with copy paste hate centered on TLoU2. It seemed organic at the time, but when the TV series came out it was very sus, as if somebody had forgotten to turn off their bot army.

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[–] tiny_tina_@lemm.ee 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Reddit is a lot less active now. Gotta love it

[–] DadHands@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)

People on Reddit keep saying things are mostly back to normal, while tiny subs are hitting the front page of /r/all on the regular with like 2k votes.

Also, I've noticed a pretty significant increase in overt racism. Or rather, significant decrease in moderation of it. I shouldn't be surprised but it keeps catching me off-guard.

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[–] Lateralking@vlemmy.net 7 points 1 year ago

I haven't been back but do you have any data to back that up?

Not that I don't believe it, I just want some schadenfreude

[–] gnarlyriot@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Good that the protest keeps going. Lemmy AND Squabbles are not a fraction of what Reddit was for all my interests and hobbies. Let's hope more and more people keep learning about the alternatives.

[–] seperis@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Okay, hear me out:

I get the argument that most of these protests are meaningless/if you REALLY want to change you're going to have to do this this this. whatever (I usually stop reading there). I understand, but I don't agree.

Sure, it's nice when a protest can actually enact real changes but lets face it; that's not common and sometimes not going to happen: fine. The decision to make a protest shouldn't be decided on the basis of 'can I win'; a much less restrictive--and very deeply fun--philosophy should be "is this worth taking time out of my day just to annoy/frustrate/irritate those who are doing this?' If yes (it should always be yes), "So lets find out how many ways me and anyone else I can recruit can make this happen'.

In other words: every time a subreddit finds a new and interesting and stupid and ridiculous and just weird way to be irritating and embarrassing af...I am living for this.

[–] los_chill@programming.dev 16 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Very refreshing take on it. The cynicism about whether the protests were 'worth it' because we didn't see massive results felt like it missed all the fun of giving the greedy corporation the collective finger.

[–] seperis@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If the only reason you'll fight is because you think you can win, you're doing it for the wrong reasons. Win or lose or both or nothing at all, you do it because it's worth fighting for. Sometimes this ends with Brown v. Board of Education and Obergefell v. Hodges, but mostly, it won't, so if the best I can do right now is give some people a very, very bad day, well, I'm in: let's go.

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[–] Naura@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I agree.

Also when we’re all being fucked over no one has a right to say how we (in general) should be protesting. People get to show their anger in whatever way they want. It’s like people asking for civility so they don’t have to deal with uncomfortable messages. Um fuck no. NSFW all the way if that’s what one decides.

Thanks for agitating

The start of your comment reminded me of the exchange between Trevor Noah & Tomi Lauren where Trevor asks her, okay, so if this protest isn't good, and this kind isn't good, how should black people protest? How should they make their grievances known? And she just could not answer that question. Protests aren't comfortable--they're disruptive by nature. If protests don't challenge anything or make anyone uncomfortable, what are they even doing?

[–] jecxjo@midwest.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While i wholeheartedly agree that people should protest however the heck the want...

...I still don't get the rage this issue is causing. Don't get me wrong, I'm the guy who has a list of businesses I don't do any sort of business with because of their policies. But i feel like this could have been resolved with shutting down all subs and then everyone taking the summer off from computers. Instead everyone took 48hrs off and then had to get back to their addiction and ramp up their anger in the process.

The NSFW thing is awesome though.

[–] Alperto@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

well, some people don’t care, but others like me have been years there finding and joining communities, and for others who became admins and moderators, they spent a good chunk of their time to create and take care of communities over years for free. Now that has been taken from them, and even each step Reddit takes, enrages the content creators and curators even more, so they respond because they don’t want to give up, and now they may want revenge. So I totally support everything they’re doing, from filling it up with useless content to fill it up with NSFW content to avoid ads and so ruining Reddit cash flow. And I hope they keep going on for a while.

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[–] Onlytanner@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (19 children)

I honestly expected after the API changes rolled out that the backlash on Reddit would stop but I'm glad to see the shenanigans continue.

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[–] popemichael@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

So long as it hurts Reddit, all the better.

This whole API issue is a lost cause, so the only thing that can be done now is to make Reddit lose big.

[–] Polydextrous@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m really fuckin loving getting to watch this war being waged on Reddit from Lemmy. I was really worried that, on the first, all of the protests would peter and those of us pissed about it would be gone and things would just even out for the company. Love to see it still being fought, and more dirty than ever.

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[–] DragonAce@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (38 children)

I wish more of the larger subs were still protesting and didn't roll over so easily. But regardless the site has taken a massive hit to its reputation and one can only hope that recovery won't be possible moving forward and it screws them out of their chance to go public.

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[–] Nobody1@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (26 children)

Any luck with RIF or a similar app for Lemmy? Someone(s) develop that tool and Reddit is toast

[–] Fireinthesky7@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

So far wefwef has been my favorite. It's a web app and has to be downloaded through Safari or Chrome, but it was made by the developer of Apollo and is very similar the overall experience of using that. Liftoff is a close second.

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[–] dottedgreenline@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Keep poking, disrupting and agitating until you get any reaction. Catharsis is also important.

[–] CafeCubano@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The saddest part about this is…it didn’t have to be this way. Reddit’s greed turned something beautiful (or at least with some nice pieces) into a hellscape….

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