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[–] Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world 46 points 6 months ago (2 children)

You can tell this person is reasonably intelligent. They are articulate enough to present this as an actual argument.

And yet they're still capable of falling into fallacy and propaganda.

Just a reminder that this is the type of person to watch out for in real life. This is an obvious example, but intelligent sounding people are still susceptible to such bullshit, and theyre the ones who do the best to make it sound right.

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

American diabolism is a hell of a drug.

There's plenty wrong with the US if that's your concern, and no need to invent the kind of brain-rot that leads to takes like "I want to move from the US to the DPRK because they actually respect workers."

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 3 points 6 months ago

You really need to understand that people that just be lying sometimes.

[–] Kid_Thunder@kbin.social 41 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Funny how they conflate actual slavery with 'wage slaves' which is something totally different and also wasn't different in the south at the time anyway.

Slaves were also not guaranteed food, housing nor even life. Conforming slaves got the minimum of those things so that they could continue being slaves.

Unfortunately, when I was growing up in the south, this sort of bullshit was actually being taught in schools.

[–] bigbluealien@kbin.social 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Worse than that, conforming slaves got the housing they made, the food they grew

[–] bigbluealien@kbin.social 30 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Fuck it, this isn't going away, can we appropriate "Northern Aggresion" to mean anti slavery? You want to keep slaves? You're about to get some Northern Agression. It seems justified but that might just be me

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 5 points 6 months ago

I'd be more for it, but I like emphasizing that the dumbshits shot first at Fort Sumter.

[–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Haha he slipped up saying "wage slave", as in a person who is paid money for working and is allowed to quit.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 8 points 6 months ago

The concept of "wage slavery" refers to the idea that many people are not free to quit a bad job unless they enjoy being homeless and starving. Or having their kids be homeless and starving for that matter. Given this period was prior to the labor movement in America it's more fitting than I think a lot of people would want to admit, even if the rest of his argument bounces between equal parts of distasteful, ignorant, and insane.

Also, he's just flat out ignoring that poor Southern whites existed as well, often in even worse straits than their Northern equivalents because they had to compete with actual slave labor.

I don't really like the term for exactly this juxtaposition. It's just disrespectful to the sheer scale of cruelty in chattel slavery, and opens your arguments to pedantic types who will ignore any reasonable points you have to quibble about your questionable word choice.

[–] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 12 points 6 months ago (3 children)

What do you suppose this confederate means by "Union bankers"?

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 8 points 6 months ago

Also, these “union bankers”: do they have prominent noses and a tendency to say “oy vey” by any chance?

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 months ago

If they could read they would have no idea.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 4 points 6 months ago

I don't know, but my dog freaks the fuck out every time he says it. Must be a coincidence.

[–] Sorgan71@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

Bro is marching to the beat of his own drum for real

[–] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

is that copium i smell? or even rationalization gas?

[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

I like it, it's creative.