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Every once in a while I read a new poll showing how historically unpopular he is. How do you think people individually and in groups will react to this seemingly inevitable (to me) result? How will society react and, if possible, change?

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[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I'm going to do the same thing I did when Trump won last time: laugh at Democrats for allowing this to happen by being uselessly arrogant, anti-Left idiots.

Libs will probably once again be in denial and cry about it for months.

Right-wingers, let's just hope the most they do is gloat.

[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Laughing while fascists rise to power is sad. Hope the US does not bring the rest of the world with them while crashing and burning.

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Hope the US does not bring the rest of the world with them while crashing and burning.

They've been doing that since the end of the cold war... Iraq, Somalia, Haiti, the Balkans/Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Sudan, Iraq (Again), Afghanistan (again), Libya, Syria, Yemen, Israel - Palestine, Ukraine. Haven't even mentioned AFRICOM.

How could it get any worse? Will the nukes start flying?

[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

How could it get any worse? Will the nukes start flying?

Yeah, maybe. Despite the US' best efforts to fuck things up, much of the people around the world has gotten it better the last hundred years.

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah that's true I guess. I just hope as the world changes, no one does anything crazy with nuclear weapons. Or balkanisation of the major world powers. That could be disastrous.

[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Also, I think nihilism in some cases actually displays privilege. Apart from being socialist, I would probably not be the prime target of fascist reactionary and nationalistic behavior. Therefore I do not think I can morally allow myself to laugh about it at all, but rather channel despair into rage and willingness to fight back.

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, fuck that. It has nothing to do with privilege or nihilism.

I am a prime target of fascism and Nazism, I'm far from a nihilist but I still laugh. Dark comedy exists as a coping mechanism for a reason and the West has done it to itself. It's not entirely comedic, I am horrified of certain developments that can happen, but I'll laugh along the way.

[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Then I was wrong to assume that privilege of you and you can disregard what I wrote. I tend to assume privilege of those I interact with because in the majority of cases it is true. Most people with privilege also are quite unaware of it. As I think it is our moral imperative to stand up for our comrades in need, I will continue to urge those with positions to act to do so and not get pacified on the expense of those that will seriously hurt from it.

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 3 points 6 months ago

It's all good, no offense taken or anything. But have a laugh sometimes too.

I think it helps me at least. It doesn't mean you take it any less seriously.

[–] OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I mean, the liberal denial has started already. Look at the number of downvotes this post has already, compared to the number of valid arguments in the comments. (12 up, 29 down; 23 comments)

It's not about making a convincing case or appealing to logic or reason, it's about liberal suppression of dissenting views to preserve a worldview that was already archaic when it was first mainstreamed in the US in order to deny ethnic, sexual, class, and religious minorities a seat at the table with the ever-present and looming cudgel of fascism as the failsafe.

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

It's not about making a convincing case or appealing to logic or reason, it's about liberal suppression of dissenting views to preserve a worldview that was already archaic when it was first mainstreamed in the US in order to deny ethnic, sexual, class, and religious minorities a seat at the table with the ever-present and looming cudgel of fascism as the failsafe.

Absolutely!

Although, we at Hexbear happily live under an authoritarian Communist dictatorship with a Great Firewall of our own and as such we do not see downvotes. Downvote me all you want, libs.

[–] OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

One of the many things to love about the bear, comrade ✊ 🐻

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

I'm not a fan of Biden, but I'd vote for a bag of his toenail clippings over the traitor Donald Trump.

US politics is always a choice of the lesser evil, and every gripe I have about Biden is petty as fuck in contrast to the damage Trump has already done to our country, let alone the potential to compound it if he's elected again.

To answer your question, I'll be disappointed in my fellow voters, but if that many people decide to vote against their own interests, then collectively we'll get what we deserve.

[–] Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Is he less popular than Trump? Because while I don't think there's going to be the same voter turnout as last election, I think he can still beat Trump. And if Trump gets disqualified his chances are probably even better. I mean, I don't like Biden, and don't think he did a good enough job to vote for him again. I still will, because the GOP is a fucking disgrace.

[–] AndrasKrigare@beehaw.org 3 points 6 months ago

By https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/ it looks like he's about as popular (or unpopular depending how you look at it) as Trump was at this point in their presidencies

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It's impossible to know who will win at this point, Biden is historically unpopular, but his opponent will be Trump. Who is very polarising. I still don't understand how they'll allow him to run again, but that's beside the point. Bush Jr stole a whole election and no one did anything to stop it and he also was allowed to run in and win the 2004 election, so anything goes.

It all depends on what happens this year. The election media frenzy hasn't even properly started. The Democrat voter base can be very easily emotionally manipulated into voting for Biden if liberal media plays it's cards right. The Republicans and conservatives are screwed, it's Trump and no one else with the MAGA cult he's formed around himself. It's the only chance they have. All their other primary candidates are generic manufacturerd politicians. But Trump guarantees them a passionate voter base, something none of the other candidates have.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Corporate Democrats will be just like 2016: "How could this HAAAAAAPPPEEEENNNNN??????!!"

Progressive Democrats: "We fuckin' TOLD you."

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 2 points 6 months ago

We deserve everything that happens if they run Biden and lose.

[–] CrushKillDestroySwag@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

They're gonna try to prevent the certification of ballots from red states, and things are gonna get a little out of hand.

[–] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is assuming he doesn't drop dead from frailty before the election.

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

That could happen to both Biden and Trump lol. Both are old and unhealthy, and displaying signs of dementia. Trump almost died of COVID while president, and his blood is entirely made up of diet Coke at this point. Biden is just incoherent and constantly says things he shouldn't say, much to the dismay of his staff. Remember Blinken's reaction when Biden randomly went on an anti China rant, for no reason at all? Ruined a whole day's workblinken-pain

[–] D61@hexbear.net 6 points 6 months ago

Same as what happened when Hillary lost to Trump.

[–] Philo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Wouldn't that depend on who wins?

[–] OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml -2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Does anyone genuinely believe that Biden will win at this point?

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

at this point, it’s genuinely unclear whether Trump will even be allowed on the ballot in enough states to win— or possibly on any ballots at all. there’s a legitimate possibility that Trump may, if fact, be disqualified from running for president at all.

[–] MeetInPotatoes@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

I don't confidently predict anything for the upcoming election. I couldn't possibly count the amount of random shit that could happen between now and then.

[–] Okokimup@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

When you assume, it makes an ass out of u.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

...and only u!

The spelling aid on that one has always rubbed me wrong.

[–] jocanib@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's not supposed to help you spell the word? It's a comment on the danger of assuming things.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The full bit is "when you assume, it makes an ass of u and me!"

Teacher dropped that line on my class when I was a little dude, with a comedic pause instead of actually articulating "ass". We all got a kick out of it, the correct spelling of "assume" was instantly and permanently ingrained in our heads, and I've heard it referenced quite a few times since.

But after the initial giggle, there's the "hey wait a minute, if YOU assume, that only makes an ass of YOU!"