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submitted 10 months ago by USAONE@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

Many voters supporting the former president also rated him as more truthful than their own friends and family

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[-] Nougat@kbin.social 83 points 10 months ago

It's because they are literal fascists.

Yeah, I've said it a bunch of times. Gonna keep saying it, because it's true.

[-] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Are you ready for the people who don't understand what fascism is to tell you that you've got it wrong?

It blows my mind that people can't accept that the Nazis had the same enemies that the Christian Nationalists do today: sexual, religious, and ethnic minorities & leftists. It's not a coincidence, it's a plan.

[-] Polydextrous@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

It’s the way history is taught in the US. We gloss over any wrong-doing by US leaders, whitewash American history while discussing pretty openly the failings of other states and forms of government…US educated children are (and I mean this word…literally) LITERALLY brainwashed into thinking that things like the vague concept of “fascism” existing only in Germany in the 30s-40s. If it’s not actual swastikas and red flags on every street corner with Jews being rounded up and killed by the millions…then it can’t be fascism.

Our education system is severely lacking in a lot of ways, but not knowing how to put history in proper context while explaining how everything that’s happened has led to today and the exact conditions we are in now is one of its gravest failures.

Not to mention, painting capitalism—a system that breeds people to viciously live in spite of others—as infallible and the final and only answer. That’s another horrible heavy dose of indoctrination that is just treated as a given.

[-] Nougat@kbin.social 8 points 10 months ago

Are you ready for the people who don’t understand what fascism is to tell you that you’ve got it wrong?

Yup.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 66 points 10 months ago

It doesn't matter what they say...

Because they just fucking lie about everything.

Like a spouse that hits you and says it's because "they love you so much". That's obviously not the real reason, but if they were honest there might be consequences so they just say some random bullshit.

Indictments or not, 100% of these idiots would still be voting for trump

[-] SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago

I don’t think that’s true. The indictments have actually caused a surge in support for Trump. Many of these voters are specifically supporting him because of the indictments, as horrifying as that is.

[-] Saneless@sh.itjust.works 57 points 10 months ago

Because he's the only candidate who has expressly promises to make the lives of people they hate worse

Of course, that means their own lives will be worse, but they're not smart

[-] demlet@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

There's an old Russian proverb about a man who finds some magic creature, I can't remember what exactly. It tells him he can have anything he wants, on the condition that his greatest enemy will get the same thing. "In that case," the man says, "take one of my eyes..."

[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago

Was it his worst enemy would get twice as much?

[-] demlet@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

No, I think the point was that many people would rather make their enemies suffer alongside themselves than share in something good.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago

I mean was the Russian proverb that you can wish for what you want, but your worst enemy will get twice as much. Answering losing one eye means your worst enemy will lose two.

[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 48 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Despite Trump’s countless lies, 71 percent of Trump voters believe he is a source of “true” information, beating even their own friends and family, who ranked second with 63 percent.

We have a term for this in English. It's called a cult.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It was always weird to me how cults worked even with people's friends and family saying otherwise. But here it is.

[-] dx1@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Years of conditioning from all angles to create an alternate reality. Happens all over the world.

[-] HLMenckenFan@lemmy.world 41 points 10 months ago

More proof we are living in an idiocracy.

[-] DharkStare@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago

It's worse than Idiocracy. In Idiocracy, the president recognized there was a problem and hired the smartest man to fix the problem. Later on he even stepped down as president and appointed the smart guy to take his place.

We could only wish the Republicans had someone with that much integrity.

[-] Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago
[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 7 points 10 months ago

That summary leaves out A LOT.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Yeah, it doesn't even get into Upgrayedd.

[-] macaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 10 months ago

That woman in the front row is bugging me out…

[-] Fester@lemm.ee 15 points 10 months ago

She’s got “scary Bilbo” energy

[-] Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

What. The sign with blue "Lord" and "President Trump" don't irk you? 😅😬

[-] macaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 10 months ago

That’s certainly weird, but the lady up front sums up the whole cult of personality issue.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Check out zombie lady at the lower right hand corner too.

[-] SharkEatingBreakfast@sh.itjust.works 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's because he's making himself out to be a martyr who is challenging a corrupt system, which is why "the system" doesn't like him and is trying to steal what is rightfully his.

See? He's the one fighting the true corruption!!

Honestly, anyone who still buys into this shit at this point is dead to me.

[-] nile@sopuli.xyz 8 points 10 months ago

It's ironic because the system is truly corrupt, but he's the worst of it.

[-] SharkEatingBreakfast@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

Well, the worst at hiding it, at the very least.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 5 points 10 months ago

I bet there is a significant portion of his base that thinks they’ve got it all figured out, proper iamverysmart or iamverybadass stuff.

They see the same in him as themselves: stupid unjustified confidence and just spouting off random thoughts as truths. Just being an abrasive dickhead, but in a way that makes others feel embarrassed to even listen to them.

[-] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 17 points 10 months ago

Trying to find any melanin in that crowd shot is literally the worst kind of "Where's Waldo".

[-] Kleinbonum@feddit.de 7 points 10 months ago

Just such an insane photo in general.

The all white crowd? The absolutely insane looking lady, holding the scared looking baby? The "Thank You, Lord JESUS, FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP" sign?

[-] mikeboltonshair@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago

This is TDS just on the Trump side, complete morons, anyone who idolizes politicians is dumb as fuck

Look at that woman’s face….

[-] Speculater@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

TDS was always a way to turn their cult around on sane people. Literally every criticism they just said, nah, you got TDS.

[-] Zippy@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Predominately these are people that will vote anyone in that be burn down their house. The more evil the better as they dream of a chaotic revolution.

[-] skellener@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago

🤦‍♂️

[-] starrox@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

That poor baby.

[-] TwoGems@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Despite Trump’s countless lies, 71 percent of Trump voters believe he is a source of “true” information, beating even their own friends and family, who ranked second with 63 percent

And they deserve to be cut out forever after this. There are no words for this kind of behavior.

[-] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Trying to scroll through that site is a nightmare of mobile pop ups and interruptions. Clearly they’re not about getting information on anything to people when an ad covers 70% of the screen centered over the article.

[-] Devious_Thoughts@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 months ago

Like a cult, we have to start treating them like victims instead of reasonable political party

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 10 points 10 months ago

Members of a normal cult are victims. Members of a cult with millions of members are a threat.

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