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submitted 5 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

A drug infamously touted by Donald Trump has been linked to nearly 17,000 Covid deaths in a new scientific study.

Researchers say that the anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine was prescribed to patients during the first wave of Covid-19 “despite the absence of evidence documenting its clinical benefits.”

The French study estimated that 16,990 patients in the US, France, Belgium, Italy, Spain and Turkey may have died as a result of the drug.

The study has been published in the February issue of Biomedicine & Pharmacotherapy.

Researchers say the data used comes from a study published in the Nature scientific journal, which reported that there was an 11 per cent increase in mortality rate linked to the drug’s prescription.

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[-] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 89 points 5 months ago

17000 republicans deaths. Because no one else is stupid enough to believe his word.

[-] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 37 points 5 months ago

It does say from around the world. But I take your point for sure.

[-] OscarRobin@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

*conservative deaths

[-] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

To be fair, the 17000 were not even all Americans. 16,990 patients in the US, France, Belgium, Italy, Spain and Turkey. I too dislike Trump but the world is larger than the US

[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

We would need to see the breakdown. If it's 14000 in the US and 3k elsewhere then that's telling but i don't see that information listed anywhere.

Edit: Found it!. It's about 13K in the US.

Overall, using median estimates of HCQ use in each country, we estimated that 16,990 HCQ-related in-hospital deaths (range 6267–19256) occurred in the countries with available data. The median number of HCQ-related deaths in Belgium, Turkey, France, Italy, Spain, and the USA was 240 (range not estimable), 95 (range 92–128), 199 (range not estimable), 1822 (range 1170–2063), 1895 (range 1475–2094) and 12739 (3244− 15570), respectively.

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 23 points 5 months ago

Would've been hilarious if that matched the exact number of votes he lost Georgia by or something like that.

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

11,780 conservative deaths in GA... What a coincidence!

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[-] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

It actually exceeds that number, 11,780, so I'd say that counts.

[-] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 19 points 5 months ago

Or vulnerable relatives and friends of those same republicans.

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 57 points 5 months ago

How can you say it's not effective? Do those 17,000 dead people still have COVID? /s

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 53 points 5 months ago

17000 deaths.... Within a limited set of countries, so the entire amount world wide will be much, MUCH higher.

Trump is the direct cause that covid got that big in the US, he directly recommended shit like this medication, hell he recommended injecting bleach.

Trump is DIRECTLY responsible for the deaths of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of men, women and children.

But hey, let's make him president again!

[-] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

hell he recommended injecting bleach

Okay...first and foremost: Trump is a fascist moron, an absolute danger to everyone, and can go fuck himself. However, he did not recommend injecting bleach. He VERY STUPIDLY asked his task force if it was something we could do.

Source: https://youtu.be/zicGxU5MfwE?t=35

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[-] qwertyWarlord@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Which you could argue is also a large component of the inflation we've had. We wouldn't have had to massively stimulate the economy if there wasn't a pandemic. But it was all Biden, charging you more for eggs, right?

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 44 points 5 months ago

Even if 10% of those people took it because he told them to, that’s 1700 deaths on his head.

I haven’t even killed one person.

[-] MSgtRedFox@infosec.pub 23 points 5 months ago
[-] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 19 points 5 months ago
[-] dhork@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Given they're still alive, their k/d is undefined

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[-] Hux@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

1st, I doubt he cares or even thinks about it.

2nd, if we’re talking about his actions leading to deaths, I’d say this one is his top-performer (5/10/2018):

https://x.com/atomicanalyst/status/994696175575068672?s=46&t=g3yM8UdEINqcLyXIxWs-lg

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

You'll never make it as a conservative.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

I haven’t even killed one person.

Have you even made the effort?

People are so lazy these days.

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[-] magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh 36 points 5 months ago

Well technically, dying does eliminate COVID from your body.

[-] Stoneykins@mander.xyz 20 points 5 months ago

This is probably the grossest "um, actually" I've said ever, but I think technically rotting is what eventually gets rid of the covid in your body. A recently deceased person would still "have" covid in them.

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[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 35 points 5 months ago

Unfortunately, the people who need to know the results of this study don't believe in studies.

[-] Kethal@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago
[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 12 points 5 months ago

Some of them are. But I know plenty of Trumpers who consider anything coming out of a university or any study as "fake news."

[-] milkjug@lemmy.wildfyre.dev 32 points 5 months ago

'member when Oklahoma bought $2m worth of hydroxychloroquine at the height of repub's hysteria, then tried to return them for a refund? Pepperidge Farm 'member.

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[-] charonn0@startrek.website 30 points 5 months ago

Wait... they got prescriptions for it?

Where are the malpractice suits? Where are the licensing authorities?

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[-] MIDItheKID@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago

A lot of people in here acting like the patient was the one that got to decide what kind of drugs they were getting. I had covid very very early on, and I was hospitalized. They had me on hydroxychloroquine. The doctors and nurses didn't know what the fuck was going on, they were trying everything they could hoping that something would work. I was basically a test subject because it was so early on. It looks like it didn't kill me, which is great, but at no point did I ask to be put on it.

[-] PutangInaMo@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

Yeah but the subsequent private purchases of the drug well after it was established to not work is what the issue is.

If you got covid in that first year you were getting treated with the kitchen sink. Your Healthcare decided the drug was worth the risk and you got it. Not every hospital was doing that, hell I hadn't even heard of one using it until your comment..

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[-] ohlaph@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago

Look, nobody kills off his base better than him.

[-] ObsidianZed@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

To the tune of Gaston --

"No one kills off their base,

let leopards eat their face,

leave thousands of bodies all over the place..."

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[-] MSgtRedFox@infosec.pub 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

What's the word we use for a group of people who follow their chosen leader no matter how ridiculous? I can't remember...

Didn't some people drink a bunch of poison koolaid once?

/s

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

It was Flavor Aid, not Kool-Aid

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

Meanwhile, my local Walmart is fully stocked on horse paste. We were in the pet care section yesterday. A bunch of boxes of apple-flavored ivermectin. And I'm guessing they didn't have that many because people go to Walmart for horse care supplies.

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[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Doesn't his buddy own the company that makes the stuff?

This was a pumb and dump scam that Trump ran right from the White House.

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Personally I liked his stint as a bean salesman while in the white house, just casually sitting at the resolute desk hocking beans...just president stuff NBD.

the orange idiot selling beans from the oval

[-] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 10 points 5 months ago

Let's be real. This dude was doing us a favor by doing this. Anyone dumb enough to listen to him fucking deserves it.

[-] Skipper_the_Eyechild@lemmings.world 16 points 5 months ago

If they were just taking it themselves, that is, unfortunately a lot of these shitwads have children and other dependants.

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[-] DarkGamer@kbin.social 9 points 5 months ago

Killing your supporters, brilliant move. 4d chess.

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