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[–] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I almost missed the Spanish upsidedown semicolon

[–] csolisr@communities.azkware.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] jormaig@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In Spanish we open and close all quotations. Like:

  • ¿Tienes cambio? (do you have change?)
  • ¡Me encanta! (I love it!)
[–] tchotchony@mander.xyz 5 points 2 years ago

I don't speak Spanish at all, but I really wish more languages would adapt it. It's so much easier to interpret a sentence knowing it's meant to be a question or exclamation right from the start.

[–] SolanumChillEse@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just started learning French only to find out you need a Bachelor’s in math just to count past 70.

[–] mamarguerat@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

In Swiss French we say « septante » (70) « huitante » (80) and « nonante » (90) which is better than counting by 20

[–] rclkrtrzckr@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago

Swiss French doesn't count as French (like Schwiizerdütsch isch nöd Dütsch)

[–] konakona@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

programming x linguistics humor

[–] ophy@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As a programmer and a linguist, this is the kind of content that really gets the happy chemicals flowing through my monkey brain

[–] theory@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

Actually, is there a linguistics lemmy instance or community?

[–] joneskind@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

As a French, I understand this post and it hurts because it’s true.

[–] snowe@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I had to read a lot of the comments to understand what the post meant.

[–] ojmcelderry@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah. Honestly, I'm still not sure I understand it. ELI5?

[–] AlternActive@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

French being french. They have no word for ninety for example, it's four-twenty-ten. Not bullshitting you.

As in Four (times) twenty (plus) 10.

[–] MouseWithBeer@iusearchlinux.fyi 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The American is how it is supposed to be.

The British one has the "color" changed changed to "colour" due to British spelling of color.

The Spanish one has an upside down semi colon because in Spanish you write questions like this: ¿Is this an example question?

The French one is because the French number system makes absolutely no sense and to say 99 you have to say quatre-vingt-dix-neuf (meaning 4 x 20 + 19).

I hope this helps somehow.

[–] nintendiator@feddit.cl 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The American is how it is supposed to be.

The British one has the “color” changed

[citation needed]

[–] MouseWithBeer@iusearchlinux.fyi 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I mean in code. Not sure how many programming languages are gonna accept "colour". Or maybe they do and I am wrong, tbf I never thought about it till now.

When it actually comes to the English language that's a different story.

[–] nintendiator@feddit.cl 1 points 2 years ago

I don't know any language where "colo[u]r" is a keyword, or a lexer-level entity tbh, so I'm not sure there would be any difference. Anywhere you can name a variable "color", you can name it "colour". C++ allows you to explicitly make one an alias to the other, for example.

That said, I've seen a number of BBCode parsers need to take both "[color="] and "[colour=]". Really, we need code and programming languages in general to be less American. It's 2023 already and in many programming languages I have to name my accounting variables "ano" (butthole) instead of "año" (year).

[–] alr@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

If you think French is bad...

// Danish
farve = "#(9+½+5)FFAA"
[–] rclkrtrzckr@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Please elaborate. Any background on this?

[–] alr@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The Danish word for 99 is nioghalvfems, which literally means "nine and half five." Which you could be forgiven for assuming meant 11½. The trick is that a) "half five" actually means 4½, as in half less than five, and b) it's implied that you're supposed to multiply the second part by 20. So the proper math is 9 + (-½ + 5) * 20 = 99.

[–] somada2kk@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As guy who hate French language and was learning in 1999 I can confirm it was pain to read the topic of lesson and the date. I was so happy when we switched to 2000.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago

Whole generations of French students that have no idea they escaped having to write "mille neuf cent quatre-vingt dix-neuf" over and over again, in cursive of course.

[–] Wander@yiffit.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

//German

Farbe="#Neunundneunzigdoppelefdoppela;"

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don’t how you teach basic counting at a young age in French without learning higher grade level math.

[–] Kiwy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Joke aside, it's not taught as 4 × 20 +10 but simply “90 is pronounced quatre-vingt-dix” — which kinda is a mouthful, but you rarely count to 90 as a kid anyway.

[–] PastorHaggis@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sounds like you were just a quitter. I counted to 100 all the time to show off.

[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

I'm counting to 100 right now, fight me!

[–] dakerDraws@pawb.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Quatre-vingts-dix-neuf! 🤣

Or as my American-ass says, "Cat vank deez noofs."

[–] GewoehnlicherHamster@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Takes notes

Next time meeting someone who might speaks french: Pontjur fellow frenchman, i need cat wank deez nutz of those poms