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[–] Nobody@lemmy.world 67 points 8 months ago (46 children)

They got a pass for taking pot shots at Israel, because that's an internal regional conflict. Shooting at civilian trade ships in one of the most important shipping lanes on the planet is a completely different thing. We're not watching gas prices skyrocket, a resurgent Russia, a global economic downturn, etc. just because some religious fanatics are throwing a temper tantrum.

The Houthis were warned repeatedly to cut that shit out, and they didn't listen. These are the consequences.

[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago

As Germany and Japan can tell you, "Don't fuck with the boats"

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (10 children)

All civilian trade ships are fired upon when they attempt to violate a blockade. Europe does it, Israel does it, the US does it. It's how blockades work.

Will it effect international trade? Yes. So maybe the USA should have considered that before ruining relationships by attempting to maintain white dominance on the region. Oh right. They did consider it. And then realized they could just bomb everyone to get their way. And now, the West is experiencing the consequences of their violence - shipping delays.

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[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 41 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (11 children)

Can someone explain to me how this is "A Breach of Yemeni Sovereignty"? It seems like these actions are supported by the internationally recognized government in Yemen. (I'm not asking about the validity of these actions, or the horrendous effects of them. Just the sovereignty question)

Also, is this the interviewee? It appears she is a language and literacy assistant professor who happens to be Yemeni American, not an expert on the Yemen war, international law, or anything else relevant to these events.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 17 points 8 months ago

Ansar Allah movement controls the territory where 80% of Yemeni population lives and enjoys mass public support. The fact that burger empire and its vassals refuse to recognize sovereignty and right to self determination of other nations just further exposes the moral bankruptcy of the west.

[–] PrinceWith999Enemies@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago (8 children)

It is in no way a breach of Yemeni authority. th government has no control over the territory in question, and it is being used to make repeated military strikes against US military and international civilian targets. This is entirely legal and justified under both US and international law. I’m just surprised it took this long.

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[–] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 months ago (19 children)

The internationally recognized government does not have control over the populated regions of the country. It’s a farce to pretend they represent the Yemeni people.

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago

Sovereignty carries with it responsibilities, these include exerting conrol over territory claimed, and maintaining territorial integrity. If some external or internal force operates with impunity in your territory, you lose sovereignty over that territory. It doesnt nessecarily mean they gain sovereignty though, although that can be one posdible outcome.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (42 children)

Israel: bombs and invades Palestine

Palestine fighting back is wrong.

Yemen: bombs ships serving Israel

America fighting back is... right?

I feel bad for American voters. The last time military action was taken without congressional approval it led to a 20 year war resulting in a million dead Iraqis and the Taliban government back in power in Afghanistan (among other completely preventable atrocities, like this).

The hypnotism of American exceptionalism is requiring an almost lethal dose of ignorance to continue to work.

Edit: Wrong. Congress approved military action against Afghanistan and Iraq. They were lied to by the Bush administration but they did in fact approve both.

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[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Let me guess what the other 3 were: W Bush, Obama, Trump. This is hardly surprising.

[–] intelshill@lemmy.ca 9 points 8 months ago

Almost like the US has a hard on for the Middle East. Coinciding with the end of the Cold War.

I wonder why...

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I know it's not funny, but it almost seems like it's some weird tradition at this point

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