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About two-thirds of Canadians surveyed this month said American democracy cannot survive another four years of Donald Trump in the White House, and about half said the United States is on the way to becoming an authoritarian state, a poll released on Monday said.

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[–] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 56 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Unfortunately there's a segment of Canadians that have been exposed to the same brain rot social media as our Southern Cousins that would very much like to see Trump in power even in our country.

They often confuse American rights/amendments with Canadian and think they are interchangeable between the countries.

It's a shame as we use to be proud of what made us same but also different. It's an amazing lesson on the powers of social media and it shows how far behind we are compared to the Russians and the Chinese who are using it to their advantage within our countries. It's child's play for them now...

[–] jkibble@lemmy.ca 30 points 9 months ago (2 children)

As someone from Alberta I feel attacked. Unfortunately it's completely accurate

[–] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I hear it's not a lot of fun with the Provincial Government being in on the ground floor of this stuff especially when it comes to ending alternative power generation, not allowing health care professionals refer to vaccines and what they are for publically, and I'm sure the list goes on from there which is fun to endure.

I was referring to my local redneck relations and friends in BC.

[–] TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works 11 points 9 months ago

We can suffer through the stupidity together ❀️

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 10 points 9 months ago

When did we stop hating Americans is my biggest question

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 months ago

Maybe NAFTA had us import some American stupidity in exchange for Ted Cruz...

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 36 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

About two-thirds of Canadians surveyed this month said American democracy cannot survive another four years of Donald Trump

I'm surprised two-thirds of Canadians still view American democracy as being "alive" enough to be at risk of not "surviving" something.

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 11 points 9 months ago

Technically, a comatose person in the hospital on life support is still alive . . . and to be honest, I don't think that's a bad analogy in this case. It dies if the Republicans pull the plug by ceasing to go through the motions.

[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 31 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not just Canadians worry about that.

[–] xor@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago

it's not really a worry, it's a plain fact

[–] Ulrich_the_Old@lemmy.ca 23 points 9 months ago

He should be executed for treason and we all know this. The fact that this has not happened reasonably makes us fear the worst. We all know what happened when hitler was not executed when he reasonably could have been.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

The responsibility for this development is not that the average American electing someone like Trump.

The responsibility is a horde of professionals, academics, trained politicians, highly educated people and highly experienced people who are all actively working to promote, support, finance and encourage the election of Trump.

If they relied on Trump's charisma alone, he would have been forgotten a long time ago. They have to continually promote him in order to make him viable ... and that promotion can only occur with money and leagues of professionals who actually want to support this.

Average people can be directly and marketed to elect whoever the establishment wants .... if they wanted to, they could reanimate the dead corpse of Hitler and with enough marketing and promotion, they could get him elected.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

This is an interesting, and probably valid point. On one hand capitalism gonna capitalism and some are seeing themselves as economic winners under Trump. But on the other, I have a feeling that there's a significant ideological factor that falls outside of this. Parts social ideology, economic ideology, and .. religious ideology.

[–] SamuelRJankis@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Plenty Canadians to this day will vote to keep housing prices high thinking they're on going reap the gains but they're somehow isolated from all the bad stuff that come with it.

For the people you're referring it's at least logical if you make enough money to destroy the eco system you live in but you're capable\willing to move somewhere else.

[–] Blackout@kbin.social 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Can you imagine. Americans fleeing their country as political refugees to prevent getting assassinated. Why this is the future my parents chose is beyond my understanding. Luckily I live just 20 minutes away from Canada and they like me there.

[–] pbjamm@beehaw.org 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I and my family left the USA for Canada last year, not because of Trump necessarily, but the possibility of him being reelected certainly did not slow us down. Even though it has been absurdly cold the last week, so far I regret nothing about the move. I could have just left the Big City for a small one in the US, but finding one of those that is not Trumpy would be a challenge. Instead we moved to BC and it is astoundingly beautiful. I marvel at its beauty every day and I hope I never stop.

[–] MrGG@lemmy.ca 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Welcome home, American cousins!

[–] pbjamm@beehaw.org 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Thanks cuz! I was slightly concerned that people might be resentful of us but so far everyone has been kind and welcoming. I am Canadian already (dual citizen) thanks to my Mom being from Toronto and hopefully the wife/kids will be Permanent Residents by spring. Bureaucracy is fairly efficient here but that is still means slow.

[–] PenguinTD@lemmy.ca 8 points 9 months ago

When I hear efficient and Canadian gov(especially immigration related) together it genuinely surprise my until I know we are comparing it to US.

[–] Numpty@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago

Nah you're 100% welcome in Canada. We are glad you're here.

[–] DemBoSain@midwest.social 4 points 9 months ago

Sure, they like you when they know you'll leave soon. I like when my family visits too.

[–] PenguinTD@lemmy.ca 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So GOP has no other person that are willing to do the right thing and just call him what he really is?

[–] introversion@universeodon.com 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

@PenguinTD @sik0fewl Anyone on Trump’s β€œenemies list” faces death-threats for themselves and even their families, from MAGA cult members. The GOP is acknowledging this, but not trying to do anything about it. https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/1/11/2216659/-COWARD-J-D-Vance-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-endorse-Orange-Jesus-or-fear-his-wrath

[–] PenguinTD@lemmy.ca 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

So all the GOP politicians just cowards in the face of death threats because 2nd amendment and people can just go assassinate them? Did I read this right as I thought GOP is all about small gov and protect your stuff/property with your guns. Like they don't have the slight courage to call it and fucking say this is a cult and I will defend my family like they defend their gun rights? Is US as a whole tolerate this type of behavior and not hunting down those and jail if they send out death threats while they swatting people from fake internet calls. What a hypocritical country I have to say.

edit: after reading the link entirely, I am glad to say that some people's head is still clear and thinking. But unfortunately the GOP political figures are disgraces of US's founding fathers, more like shit stains of democracy.

[–] FunkyMonk@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Him and his doners keep promissing their whales as such.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago

Mmm, doner.