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Transcription: A side by side picture of Star Trek Strange New Worlds character Hemmer and The Next Generation character Geordi La Forge.

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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 83 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Clearly you haven't spent enough time around engineers. There's a reason the laser warning sign says " do not use remaining eye to look at laser "

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Reminds me when Data and Geordi was testing that phaser right next to the damn Warp Core.

Forget the episode but it's the one Romulans mind controlled Geordi.

[–] teft@startrek.website 17 points 1 year ago

"The Mind's Eye" Season 4 Episode 24

[–] paintbucketholder@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It's crazy that the entire engineering section on Starfleet ships is just right next to the warp core, with absolutely zero structural separation.

The number of times ships had to eject their warp core, or had the warp core go critical, or had other warp core related accidents, you'd think Starfleet would have learned not to exclusively rely on emergency force fields and that they would have simply built two separate sections for engineering and for the warp core.

But no, even after all those experiences, they instead even ditched the isolation doors when they designed the Intrepid class, and basically wrapped the engineering section around the open warp core.

Cause what could possibly go wrong with that approach, eh?

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like they do that all the time throughout the TNG era, owing to the fact that they didn't have a "science lab" set in addition to the warp core set which at any rate looked cool and they wanted to use it whenever they could.

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sets are expensive.

But yes never ever test a phaser next to the Warp Core, kids. That's a violation of the OSHA Directive.

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[–] barttier@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] teft@startrek.website 13 points 1 year ago
[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"And with it I will take over the Tri-State Area!"

[–] barttier@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"What is this? A Soong-type Android?"

[–] TheSilverShroud@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

PERRY the Soong-type Android‽

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[–] GaiusGornicusCaesar@startrek.website 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean Hemmer's species (the Aenar) are naturally blind and see through telepathy, all of them. So that really doesn't include him.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 year ago

The desire to look into lasers is natural.

[–] Zaphod@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hemmer isn't really "blind" though, he just sees in a different way than humans do

[–] teft@startrek.website 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Geordi isn't really "blind" though, he just sees in a different way than other humans do

[–] milkisklim@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not directly related, but my favorite exchange about human eyesight...

(Lt. Commander Data) "Sir, Lieutenant La Forge's eyes are far superior to human biological eyes, true?"

(Capt. Picard) "M-hm."

(Lt. Commander Data) "Then why are not all human officers required to have their eyes replaced with cybernetic implants?"

(Lt. Commander Data) "I see. It is precisely because I am not human."

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Tbh I agree with Data. It's absurd that they don't go full AdMech and replace all their fleshy bits with machine bits. Maybe I just crave the strength and certainty of steel more than the average human.

[–] teft@startrek.website 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

Resistance is futile

[–] HardlightCereal@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Geordi's visor gives him constant pain

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[–] mercano@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Geordi started as the blind navigator, for irony. They moved him to engineering in season 2 when they decided the did need a chief engineer as a regular character, and Wesley could serve as helmsman.

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Geordi started as the blind navigator, for irony

To be fair, a space ship is probably strictly on IFR all the time. Can't imagine the Enterprise doing a lot of visual approaches.

Also IIRC canonically Geordi's implant gives him better vision than natural eyes.

[–] Obsidiman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't know if Geordi would describe vision with his VISOR as "better", just that it allows him to see more of the E.M. spectrum. The few times he gets to see with natural eyes (when Riker's Q powers restored his eyes, and when the magic immortality planet "healed" him) he describes seeing beauty that he normally isn't capable of experiencing. "Better" is always subjective

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[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

This is Argyle erasure and I won't stand for it!

[–] Stamets@startrek.website 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was talking about the lack of a Discovery engineer on another post. Why not make you 15 cents richer and bring in a blind engineer there too?

[–] XaeroDegreaz@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Paul Stamets was the engineer on Discovery... That dude was pivotal to the story in a lot of ways. Not sure how you missed him 😲

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

It’s not like anyone knows half the names of the crew of Discovery. Most of the time it was The Michael Burnham Show ™.

[–] Stamets@startrek.website 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nope. He isn't. LtCmdr Paul Stamets isn't an Engineer and he never has been. He's a Science Officer. He works in Engineering Test Bay Alpha but he isn't an Engineer himself. Jett Reno is the highest ranking Engineering Officer we ever see on Discovery.

In Season 2, Reno goes into Stamets lab and says "The Chief sent me here" so we know there's a Chief Engineer and it isn't Stamets.

That link doesn't have any information about Stamets after Season 1. I think they're using 'chief engineer' to mean the 'main engineer we see' but that's not even accurate. Then again, Memory Alpha calls the Chief Medical Officer the 'head nurse' so fuck knows what's going on.

[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

He was just a mycology engineer, not the chief engineer. I honestly can't remember if we ever see main engineering on Discovery. They mostly work in the Spore Drive engine room. But that was Discovery's schtick, that it wasn't the "main" crew that were the stars originally.

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[–] UESPA_Sputnik@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's the same amount of Vulcan science officers! (Maybe even 2½, if you count Burnham's upbringing)

[–] theinspectorst@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

'Hi we're Starfleet, and we recruit our captains from among the best and the brightest on 150 member worlds, spread over 8,000 light years! But the vast majority of the time, when it's not Jean-Luc Picard, we just get them from this one particular country that accounts for about 4% of the population of Earth. Weird, huh?'

[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, well have you looked at the starting salary? And the mortality rate of enlisted... all the smart species know to stay away.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Starfleet is a uniquely human thing. I wonder if the other worlds think we’re weird for wanting to explore the universe.

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[–] teft@startrek.website 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Wait, are you counting T'Pol and Spock? What about Tuvok? He was a science officer on the Excelsior.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I know the actor was the same, but was that the same character?

[–] teft@startrek.website 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well he should count for half like Michael. :D

I see after your edit that you posted a pic of Enterprise B. I was talking about when he made tea for Sulu on Excelsior.

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[–] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There was a flashback to Tuvok on Excelsior, as well. It is incredibly confusing.

If this was Star Wars they would have "Special Editioned" in some Vulcan ears (on Enterprise B) by now.

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[–] neutronst4r@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Spock is also half Vulcan, no? So it's 3 people and 2 Vulcans.

[–] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's hard to be a blind tactical officer.

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tuvok kind of managed in the Year of Hell, didn't he?

[–] teft@startrek.website 9 points 1 year ago

Martok half managed it. He's not technically a tactical officer but he must count.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

If they were smart, they’d bring back Hemmer in the first episode of season three. Having him on one of the Gorn ships would be a perfect entryway for the storyline.

[–] genfood@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

From which series is the left guy from?

[–] ISometimesAdmin@the.coolest.zone 13 points 1 year ago (14 children)
[–] genfood@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah… Paramount plus, there are to many streaming services.

[–] dudewitbow@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

All the big companies who owned a majority of cable television channels have all essentially created their own streaming service

Paramount/CBS: Paramount+

Disney/ABC: Disney+

NBC/Comcast: Peacock

Fox: not aware if they have a major one

CW/WB/Discover: HBO Max

Then of course the conpanies that spawned from streaming services.

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