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I get it, it's the 32nd century and the glasses are maybe heads up displays that only he can see and use. But don't you think in three thousand years they would have figured out how to build that stuff INTO or ONTO the eye? Instead of making the person, or the person choosing to wear an ancient form of corrective lenses.

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[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 43 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Glasses are fashion items as well. Even when they've become entirely useless, people will still wear them, just like other non-functional clothing items like ties.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)

So in the same context it would be like meeting a modern day psychiatrist or professional negotiator dressed in medieval dress wear

[–] MudMan@kbin.social 37 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It'd be like a modern day executive wearing cufflinks.

We've had buttons for a long time, some people are just hipsters.

But also, Star Trek has a long history of justifying contemporary-looking people as a fashion choice. I've always remembered this one thing from one of the novels where they imply that they can easily keep everybody thin and fit indefinitely, but admirals like to get a bit pudgy on purpose because it makes them look stately.

And also makes casting and wardrobe choices a lot simpler, but I don't think the book said that.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago

Great point ... this is what I love about Trek and all the intricate details that so many people know

[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

There are quite a few examples of this actually happening. I've already mentioned neckties, but perhaps a better equivalent would be high-heels. Once worn by men as functional riding shoes, they've now entirely lost that use and are worn by women solely as a fashion item.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Someone needs to put this show idea into production immediately!

[–] armus@startrek.website 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not sure if this is true, but I remember reading that Churchill used to insert a straightened paperclip into his cigars so that the ash would stay attached to the cigar even when it was burned way down. People would be distracted watching the cigar waiting for the ash to fall, breaking their concentration and giving him an advantage

[–] lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

My friend's mom was a smoker and a hand talker, also didn't really ash when one might expect. She'd be waving around a cigarette with an inch ash on the end, it was wild. Maybe there was secretly a paper clip in there.

[–] isaz@feddit.de 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The character himself explained in one episode, why he still wears glasses (something about psychological effect or so, I think).

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Georgiou: Why are you wearing glasses?
Kovich: They make me look smarter. I like them.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It's weird how I have complete faith that this actor could deliver that line (about bo staff skills) with gravity and poise.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

I had the same impression when I first read it .... then I had to rethink and wonder if these were actual lines from the show

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

early school photo supporting a fellow classmate

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

When you wear glasses, people don’t look at your eyes. They look at your glasses. It’s especially useful for deception.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago

The more I think about the reasons why his character has glasses ... and the more I look at him and remember his character ... the more I thought that he was probably an android of some sort and the glasses might have been just a distraction or deception so that people wouldn't think he wasn't human.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 9 points 10 months ago (3 children)

In that case, I'll put on my 17th century dress wear for my next evening event ... no one will be able to beat my witty arguments while wearing my formal dress, neck ring, leggings and pompom high heel shoes

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well, if you recall it was Win... Winston Chur... Winston Churchi- I'm sorry, but are you really just gonna stand around like that while we debate? And why the fuck is there an artist doing an oil painting of you right now? Whatever, I can't debate with someone like this!

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago

Check and mate ... adjust neck ring ... NOW, as I was saying ....

[–] Jerb322@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Something makes me want to put a dollar bill in that thing around your calf...

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago

For a dollar more, we can have more fun

[–] Technofrood@feddit.uk 12 points 10 months ago

I mean they clearly did have the technology, see Gordie, started with a visor but ended up with some kind of cybernetic implants.

[–] melmi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 10 months ago

His glasses are only the tip of the iceberg.

You bring up "showing up in medieval dress clothes" but that's literally what Kovich is doing. In a room full of people in futuristic Starfleet uniforms, Kovich is wearing a vaguely futuristic suit and tie that is barely different from the fashion of the 21st century, and throwing holograms at Georgiou that have the exact same defects that 23rd century holograms did.

Kovich clearly has a thing for relics. It could tie into his interest in Georgiou as well.

[–] sheepishly@kbin.social 9 points 10 months ago

Man I don't care what century it is, I'm not putting bits of shit into my eyeballs

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 9 points 10 months ago

I always thought it suited him, and his "I don't have time for this crap" approach to life.

He's probably been scheduled for lasik 5 times, but had a friend that needed a shuttle to the hospital or or something each time.

[–] bluGill@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago

People wear glasses today despite options like contacts or laser surgery existing.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

its just for looks. see also; drew carey

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I thought he wore them just for the points

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

As long as the points don't matter

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Maybe he can't afford it.

[–] AlexisFR@jlai.lu 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Why would you butcher your eyes to put electronics in there?

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I was cleaning some metal tools a few days ago and I got some rust in my eye ... it's been bothering me since then but it's healing ... at the height of it, it was so irritated that I wouldn't have minded someone butchering it to fix it.

I've also had snow blindness several times as a kid in northern Ontario ... it usually happens in March / April because the snow is still on the ground and there is lots of sunlight .. it's like having sandpaper in (emphasis on inside) your eyeball that you can't relieve even when you close them. It's times like that when I wouldn't have minded someone butchering my eyeball if they said it would make things better.

On the other side of that ... yes I wouldn't want any 21st century doctor or surgeon to fool around with my healthy eyeball in any way ... but I would trust a surgeon or technician from the 32nd century using highly advanced and tested technology.

[–] AlexisFR@jlai.lu 3 points 10 months ago

You can wear glasses too, which can be easily removed.