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Hello everyone! I'm learning German and I'm trying to make sure my language learning habits are the best they can be. I was using Duolingo and Busuu, but that was taking a lot of time away from immersion/fun and what I learned in one app I often learned in the other, so it felt redundant. So now I just use Busuu for grammar learning.

Any new German words I come across I then enter into Anki for memorization, which I practice once or twice a day.

After these two activities, I try to fill my day as much as possible with German media; this includes German podcasts, music, games translated into German, and YouTube videos.

I want to know... Is this an effective method? I'm always a bit of a perfectionist, so I'm looking for feedback or constructive criticism. Alternatively, you could just share your own language learning methods!

I'd also love to know if there are any great instances for people learning languages! I tried looking, but none of them seemed active :(

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[โ€“] AbelianGrape@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ive been learning French for about two years now. Consuming media in the target language is good but... there is no substitute, none, for actively having conversations in the target language every day. Seek out a conversation partner! Personally, I moved (coincidentally, lol) to a Canadian French city about a year after I started learning the language. I regularly speak French with people I've met there.

I've seen many polyglots practice speaking languages on ome(dot)tv, though I can't personally say whether it's effective.

[โ€“] Whar@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I started learning Korean as a hobby during the lockdown. I was able to get a TOPIK 2 but the jump from lower-intermediate to medium-upper intermediate is rough with adult (๐Ÿ˜…) life coming in the way.

Still, I'm doing it just because I enjoy watching K-Shows and found that Korean was fun to learn!

Plus, you never stop learning a language and even if I already achieved a C1 in English, I'm still discovering new words and grammar forms every day.

PS: I'd like to be informed if a language-learning community is created or discovered!

[โ€“] neamhsplach@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Yesss Korean!! Lots of my favourite Youtubers are Korean and looking at the titles of their videos made me take up learning Hangeul. I only know a few key words from Duolingo, I've found it is getting much harder the more I progress and it certainly needs more of a time commitment now as opposed to spending two minutes on Duolingo every day.

Would also love to see a community spring up here!!

[โ€“] marin@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Iโ€™d also love to join a language learning community! Iโ€™m also currently studying Korean (for around 3 months now) but I havenโ€™t made significant progress regarding vocabulary and grammar :c

May I know which resources helped you with getting to TOPIK 2 level? Iโ€™ve only been consuming basic TTMIK content and a bunch of Kdramas

[โ€“] Whar@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I went to classes with a teacher when I had the time, now I'm with TTMIK too. I also do Anki daily and watch some K-content when I have time.

I recommend you to check this Youtube channel, is great: https://www.youtube.com/@ComprehensibleInputKorean

[โ€“] nachtigall@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

Sounds good overall. You should definitely also compose some more texts, I think this will teach much more than consumption. Maybe join some communities and discussions over here at feddit.de ;-)

[โ€“] rknuu@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not so much on German, but I'm working on learning Japanese. I find that the drill based apps (duolingo) works well for raw memorization and learning this like recognizing words, but they really have limited impact with long form media unless you're already deeply immersed with other speakers or media.

I stared to supplement with things like todai and satori reader which provide translations for news and articles/books. I find that this gives an extra push to really help understand the language.

[โ€“] marshadow@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

I started learning Japanese in early 2020, and gave up on Duolingo a couple months ago because of changes that made it a bit less helpful to me.

Otherwise your method seems pretty similar to mine: a couple sources for grammar points, Anki for vocab, and J-dramas and YouTube for listening practice.

I also try to write a little bit every day, even just a sentence or two to fill up blank space in my planner. (I can barely speak, but I have word-finding problems in my native English too, so I suppose there's not much to be done about it.)

[โ€“] SindriDeLaMancha@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

maybe try to find graphics novels, or manga translated into German. as a early french learner I've found the format to be easier to digest rather than reading full blow novels.

[โ€“] neamhsplach@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You also get more visual context which aids learning!

Do you watch any French shows? Call My Agent is very good, and very funny. Even if you're a beginner you can watch with English subs so you can get a feel for the pronunciation.

[โ€“] SindriDeLaMancha@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

pas maintenant. pouvez vous recommander shows ou films comme quelque animation s'il vous plaรฎt

[โ€“] neamhsplach@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Il y a un film sur Netflix qui s'appelle I lost my body qui m'a beaucoup plu. Il s'agit d'un main qui cherche son corps.

Persepolis aussi!

[โ€“] SindriDeLaMancha@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[โ€“] neamhsplach@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

De rien ! Dis-moi ce que tu penses quand tu les auras vues !

[โ€“] socialgaff@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Sounds like you're doing great! I majored in German in college, it's such a fun language to learn. Others have already mentioned these points, but they're definitely the next step for you, if you're looking to expand your current practice. Language accusation has 4 major components. Reading comprehension and listening comprehension (passive) and writing and speaking (active). Having a practice buddy that can speak with you on a regular basis will move you forward in leaps and bounds. Same for actually immersing yourself in an environment where the language is spoken can also move you sooo far forward. But if you keep on as you are, you'll definitely still learn a lot :)

[โ€“] WehImOarsch@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

I just started !deutsch_lernen@feddit.de, come join us :)

And for your other question, input has worked for me at least. Learning German this last year, I've almost become a full believer in the input hypothesis. I think as long as you just consume a shit ton of content, at the right level, you will get better.

In my experience, hunkering down to just read books (on my level!) has helped my fluency way more than outputting has. Reading is awesome, because it is simply the fastest way to consume content, reading is faster than listening after all.

[โ€“] Spzi@lemmy.click 1 points 1 year ago

Linking the two duolingo communities I found:

[โ€“] king_dead@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I've used duolingo for a while and I'm not really a fan, at least for japanese. They keep removing kanji and adding kana which isnt great for learning(especially when Furigana has been a thing since forever). I've moved to Hey Japan and am really only using Duolingo to maintain the streak. Hey Japan has more kanji and more diverse learning methods and less word banks. Eventually i want to add in Genki 1 but there's some personal things in the way there

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