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[–] vulgarcynic@sh.itjust.works 64 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Unbelievable that there is incentive to do a tax write off for 10's of millions. When I make investments that don't pan out, I sure as hell don't get paid out.

[–] golli@lemm.ee 69 points 10 months ago (2 children)

In my opinion a tax write off should automatically make it public domain.

[–] sramder@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That seems entirely fair. Proper even… if they get the write off there should be a durable record of this investment that was so poor as to require dramatic remedy.

People could download it from the library of congress and learn how to not make such poor decisions in the future ;-)

[–] golli@lemm.ee 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That's pretty much the idea. If they say it's bad enough to scrap and want society to relieve them of some taxes, then fair enough, but in return everyone gets to learn from the mistakes made.

I could imagine that royalties for any involved artists would need to be sorted out somehow. Howeveri guess once a rule like that exists it would simply become part of the overall negotiations how this would be handled in case a projects gets written off. Similar to how actors e.g. might get x amount of money if a movie goes straight to VOD rather than getting a full theatrical release.

[–] jopepa@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Fucking Yup!

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You too can commit continuous tax evasion if you have millions/billions of capital to move around, and teams of lawyers and accountants to do it all nice and legal like.

[–] chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In both Canada and US, you can write off investment losses that could be used against investment gains. If you’re Canadian or American, you have the same write off capability as they do.

[–] vulgarcynic@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If only I had the generational wealth to make that initial investment... damn my poor pre-life decisions!

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Just buy more money, sell one of your investment properties or, in a really dire emergency when your back is against the wall and you feel the crushing weight of your debt stuffing you leg-first into the woodchipper of ongoing financial obligations, bite the bullet and take an early withdrawal from a trust fund. That's if you can't get a small loan of a few million dollars from your parents to help make ends meet.

It's a tough world out there but perseverance, gumption and obscene familial wealth will take you far.

[–] vulgarcynic@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

I truly appreciate the advice. I hadn't even considered asking my mom if she had enough left over from paying space rent on her mobile home to loan me a few million. Gosh, I'm such an idiot. No wonder I live paycheck to paycheck!

I'll also remember to leverage my gumption when I get sick and have to pay a medical bill. I'm sure that has a decent market cap still. 🇺🇸

[–] chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If you lose $100, you can write off $100 against your other gains. Why’d you need generational wealth?

[–] vulgarcynic@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Gonna go out on a limb speaking for myself and say, losing a hundred bucks isn't something that is really gonna push the needle on my 12k minimum write off. But, it will definitely keep me in the speculative ramen market for another few months.

[–] chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Neither is 80M on a multi-billion multi-national corporation operation. WBD had $6.157B of gross income in FY2022 (FY2023 data aren't out yet, but it's close enough as a proxy). Writing off $80M against $6B is like someone with $100K incoming writing off 1.3K of losses. This is a drop in the bucket for them, just like how a couple hundred bucks are drop in the bucket for those of us that are some what privileged.

[–] carlytm@lemm.ee 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oh, good, Warner Bros. is erasing more art that people slaved over from existence because its more financially convenient that way.

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The only hope is a leak of the final cut to find its way to the pirates. Otherwise it will be deleted from existence.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 8 points 10 months ago

I hope someone who worked on it does this. Their work deserves to be seen.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

Zaslav is a pox

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So it's obviously a tax scheme then. Rejecting other offers means they never wanted it to be made

[–] ashok36@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

The offers will be used as evidence of the "value" of the write off when they submit the paperwork to the irs. Just like writing off a car, you have to submit the assessed value. What better way to get an assessed value than to shop the movie around with no intention of selling?

[–] neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

At this point, the executive leadership needs to see the film destroyed purely to save face.

It’s just the kind of petty move I’d expect from WBD’s current leadership.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 4 points 10 months ago

Yes. I forget where I heard it recently (some podcast) but by shelving the movie, they're ensuring that it doesn't become a success at some other studio which would make them look foolish for passing on it. This is why many movies will never exist.

[–] xyguy@startrek.website 4 points 10 months ago

Selling to Netflix? Psssh. The real money is in is releasing films in cardboard-cased DVDs at truck stops and dollar stores.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago

What are the chances it's not actually done & being used as a tax scam?