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Israeli strikes hit Rafah after Biden warns Netanyahu to have 'credible' plan to protect civilians (apnews.com)

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[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 35 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

The strikes hit around Kuwait Hospital early Monday morning, an Associated Press journalist in Rafah said. Some of those wounded in the strikes had been brought to the hospital.

Some of. The death toll stands at over 28,000 dead Palestinians at the hands of Israeli terrorism.

After corralling everyone south, they are now indiscriminately bombing there as well, expect to see the death toll surpass 30,000 within the next 24 hours.

Not to mention the 67,000 injured, and the humanitarian disaster that is unfolding due to lack of access to housing and aid from groups like the UNWRA.

So the casualties will probably surpass 100,000 by this time next week.

Israel must be stopped.

[–] quindraco@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The death toll stands at over 28,000 dead Palestinians at the hands of Israeli terrorism.

How are we defining terrorism? If it just means any killing we don't like, then it's just noise - we can drop it as a word and just say murder. If it means using fear as a weapon, it doesn't fit here - Israel is intent on violence for violent ends, not achieving victory through fear.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 9 points 7 months ago

The use of violence or the threat of violence, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political goals.

By that definition at least I'd say it fits Israel's actions.

That does not mean they are not also guilty of other acts, but terrorism is a tactic they employ to keep the citizens of Palestine oppressed and enacting political goals such as the continuation of Hamas (as well as directly funding them) which helps them muster internal support for campaigns of colonialism and genocide.

Israels crimes are multi-faceted, terrorism is but one of them.

[–] bedrooms@kbin.social 23 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

"Don't genocide! Stop genocide now, and I will give you our genocide funding!"

"Btw. our patrons support your genocide, and so we are labeling any peace calls as antisemitism."

Netanyahu must be laughing about the situation.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"warns"

It's not a warning if there aren't consequences. That's just whining.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

*virtue signaling — the US is happy to make money arming Israel, and are accessories in the genocide.

[–] mrbm@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago

Heard our funding described as “chuck e cheese tokens for Raytheon” yesterday and can’t stop thinking about it.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -5 points 7 months ago

It's not just money, Israel is our unsinkable aircraft carrier. Not just accessories to genocide! Active participants by cutting UNRWA funding.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Fuck Israel.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 10 points 7 months ago

Wonder who the person who downvoted you was? Fucking genocide supporters.

[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Strike Israel imho

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago

Israeli strikes hit Rafah after Biden ~~warns Netanyahu to have 'credible' plan to protect civilians~~ tries to give israel 17 billion dollars to continue their genocide

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

They don't want to protect the civilians. What part of that has nobody figured out yet?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Netanyahu tells his pet to shut up and sell him more weapons.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

~~Fuck Israel.~~

Sorry. I'd already commented yesterday. There's so many articles about this genocide that I can't keep them straight. Apologies.

[–] Wilzax@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

No no, keep posting it, it bears repeating

[+] sugarfree@lemmy.world -28 points 7 months ago (2 children)

They have successfully rescued two hostages in Rafah: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68271340. Great news!

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago

At least they didn't shoot these ones.

[+] S_204@lemm.ee -15 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Damn, downvoting the recovery of people who have been held hostage for over 100 days is wild. Especially considering releasing the rest of them would help end this madness.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

It won't

[–] Kentifer@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Diplomacy has resulted in the release of more hostages than military action has. Just saying.

[–] S_204@lemm.ee -4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Potentially yes, Hamas has refused the last few ceasefire offers tabled by Egypt and Qatar however so Israel isn't being left with options other than militarily recovering their people. The option to stop fighting is not a reasonable one given Hamas clear position that they intend to attack again...and again.

[–] Kentifer@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I mean... Israel isn't exactly accepting the offers made by the other side to stop the fighting and get their people back. They seem more intent on committing a couple of war crimes.

https://www.npr.org/2024/02/07/1229823811/israel-hamas-war-netanyahu-rejects-hamas-ceasefire

[–] S_204@lemm.ee -4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's fair but the reply of essentially Israel conceding defeat when they're not losing the war seems pretty silly doesn't it? Hamas isn't going to be left in place when this is over, they're not exactly in position to be making those sort of demands.

[–] Kentifer@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Because they want to save the hostages. Supposedly, right? That's why they would "concede defeat" (that's not what a ceasefire is). Regardless of what happens to Hamas, if Israel continues to oppress Gazans, more uprisings will occur. Hamas does not own the idea of resistance.

[–] S_204@lemm.ee -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Their goals have been very clear. They want the hostages and they want the threat of Hamas gone.

No country in the world would stand to have a genocidal maniacal threat on their border repeatedly saying they're going. Hamas has made clear their intent to repeat 10/7 Their removal is a key objective and has been since the start. Why would you ignore this?

The next violent uprising will be met with the same response. When the Arabs love their children more than they hate Jews there will be peace. That's been true since it was first spoken.

[–] Kentifer@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"Why would you ignore this?"

Because defeating Hamas is not an achievable goal. At best, they just create another group that wants to resist them as long as Israeli oppression of Palestinians continues. Hamas, whether or not you agree with them or the actions they've taken, believe themselves to be resisting Israel oppression. Why would you ignore this? Because you don't think Israel is oppressing Palestinians? No, you just think the oppression is justified as long as Hamas exists. But if its not Hamas, there will be another group. Hamas is not present in the West Bank, but that doesn't seem to be stopping Israel.

Don't forget that President Herzog has said "It is an entire nation out there that is responsible. It’s not true this rhetoric about civilians not aware, not involved." So what does that mean for "defeating Hamas"? How many Gazans does Israel get to kill in pursuit of this goal? Is there a limit for you?

One last point, because you're racist and I'm done talking to you. Reverse your bullshit about Arabs and Jews and see if it makes any actual sense to you. Because a) you are painting an entire race of people with an exceptionally broad brush b) you're conflating all Jews with Israel. Hamas has attacked Israel. Hamas not attacked "all jews" by doing so.

[–] S_204@lemm.ee -1 points 7 months ago

We've seen the turnaround the Abraham accords have brought to those countries when combined with the changes in the education system, it's entirely possible. We've got historical evidence of maniacal regimes being removed in Germany and Japan. It's absolutely possible.

Hamas' founding Charter literally calls for the death of Jews, that you're saying Hamas is only after Israel ignores their own words. Next you're going to say that the Houthi flag doesn't actually mean Jews it means a specific subset of those who you don't approve of.

You can proclaim you're done but you've also proven your utter ignorance on this issue so the world isn't losing anything there. Your inevitable reply will just reinforce it too, even though you're 'done'

[–] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The fact that you think 28,000 dead Palestinians is equal to 2 Israelis just reveals how racist you are.

[–] S_204@lemm.ee -5 points 7 months ago

What race are Palestinians exactly? Cuz my family's race would be considered the same so thanks for exposing your ignorance. Not everything is race based unless you're one of those retarded Western saviours who think everything is oppressed oppressor bullshit.