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[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 146 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Give him his due, he managed to convince one single country that the colour of a text message matters πŸ˜‚

[–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago

Obligatory fuck iMessage lock-in.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

He’s the guy that *invented” rounded corners

[–] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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[–] dyathinkhesaurus@lemmy.world 135 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As a mobile app developer, I lost count of how many times Android would implement something New And Shiny, and then Apple would come along, sometimes years later, implement that same thing for iOS and declare and market it as Magical and Revolutionary. Usually the iOS one would be a better one, because they'd let Android work most of the bugs out, but I don't recall too many things that Apple did that had never been seen before.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Not to mention in the early years, all of the logic you'd see from iPhone enthusiasts who would convince themselves that they didn't need X or Y feature from Android and in fact iOS is better without it anyways because it just works, only for Apple to turn around and implement it a couple months or years later anyways.

Basic features like the notification shade, quick actions, home screen widgets, etc. I saw a lot of people happily claim they were better off without these things.

[–] techgearwhips@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yes. I remember being argued down that "we don't need copy and paste! That's not an important feature!". Smh

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Right click!? Two mouse buttons are way too confusing for Mac users!

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[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh shit they have widgets now? Still no app drawer though I bet.

[–] Etnaphele@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ayy they caught up. Do the icons still forcibly tile to home?

[–] Etnaphele@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes and no, I think there is an opt-out toggle.

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[–] techgearwhips@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Yes we have an app drawer now lol (I use an iPhone as my secondary phone).

[–] MusketeerX@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is so true.

For 10 years (2011 to 2021) I carried both an Android phone (personal) and an iPhone (work provided). Both phones were updated about every 2 years.

Over those years I've watched IOS get closer and closer to Android. The funny thing is Android has also been creeping towards IOS in some areas, though that is to a lesser extent than the other way around.

In recent years they've gotten pretty close to each other in basic functionality.

I still prefer Android, but IOS is much less annoying to use than it was a decade ago.

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[–] roofuskit@kbin.social 97 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Steve Jobs was full of shit and killed himself with his own over confidence.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 32 points 1 year ago (13 children)

If he'd made it to Covid times, he would have died from Covid after injecting bleach and horse dewormer failed to alleviate the illness.

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[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

The guy had no furniture in his house because he couldn’t find any that met his expectations.

I think there’s an occasional lesson to draw from his uncompromising nature, focus on customer experience, and marketing talent. But he was clearly a pile of shit as a human being.

[–] cthonctic@kbin.social 78 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And in the end the lying salesman died because of snakeoil therapy. I wish more stories had such a happy ending.

[–] Rossel@sh.itjust.works 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

He had the rare treatable pancreatic cancer, and he didn't treat it because he didn't believe in modern medicine.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Goes to show how stupid supposedly smart people are.

[–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Steve jobs and Elon musk are basically the same character.

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[–] ShortFuse@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

As a PocketPC (WinMo) user before the iPhone even existed, I take offense to the claim.

They pioneered capacitive touchscreen for ease of use, but I had ditched dumb phones years before iPhone.

Note XDA refers to the old Windows Mobile XDA phone and then became an Android community. I was there for that transition and none of us were very impressed with the iPhone, but understood that it would be something for the tech illiterate would eat up.

When Android came out, we went from Custom Roms for WinMo to Custom ROMs for Android.

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not just Windows Mobile, but Blackberry OS, Palm OS, Symbian, not to mention the madlads hacking Linux onto feature phones (which eventually gave us PostMarketOS). iOS was actually very underwhelming when it came out, was(is) explicitly function over form and basically had(has) "it looks pretty and feels sleek" as its only selling points. Didn't even have third party apps whereas most of its contemporaries had them for ages by then.

[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Reminder that Steve Wozniak is the true Apple genius.

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[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Rich coming from a person who implied Apple innovated, when all they really did was be the first ones to assemble a consumer product out of already invented tech.

[–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought I was in "!android" not "!IHateApple".

Whatever you think of Steve Jobs, Android is better off for having competition

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 13 points 1 year ago

Literally true

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What did Android steal from Apple? Headphone jacks?

[–] 520@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Apparently the whole concept of a touchscreen only device, including the UI, according to Apple at the time.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Like the computers in Star Trek TNG?

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[–] IHeartBadCode@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the end Samsung would owe Apple around $500 million in US courts and Apple lost (a value I'm not even going to sit here and add up) in international courts.

The whole US snafu was largely seen around the world as American protectionism. As for Apple and Google, Apple saw their case wasn't as slam dunk internationally and decided to settle with Google in 2014.

Really though, once Steve Jobs died, the momentum for litigation dropped precipitously. Only Jobs was willing to go thermonuclear.

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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Great artists steal.. and can get away with it. If you can't get away with it, your not a great artist.

He forgot to finish the sentence.

[–] outbound5231@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I was kind of hoping that these kinds of posts would stay at reddit where they belong.

[–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Awesome, with low post counts and users on Lemmy, and an upvote system that mimics Reddits - your shit out of luck with whatever agenda for keeping lemmy "small" or however you pictured it in your mind.

The upvotes have spoken and the community wants to see this type of information.

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