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Tell your friend to log the IP address and report it to the authorities. They might need to turn over the entire modlog as well
This is likely in reference to the federation of such images posted elsewhere
There's always someone who doesn't mind ruining it for everyone else. Probably safest to just delete all the images, that way there's no need to look.
Bad actors will try to nuke the entire platform to maintain a monopoly on this format of communication and community.
Who could you posspezibly be referring to?
Is it the android? The lone skum? Or someone else entirely?
Once again reaffirming why I refuse to host an instance. If I ever do, I’m not federating with any of you degenerates lol
I'm glad s/he was able to nuke the CSAM, even if other material was nuked with it. This crap is why I'm not hosting.
Please, call it CSAM (child sexual abuse material) and not CP (child pornography). The children in these photos/videos can't make pornography, they're sexually abused into making this material. CP insinuates that it's legitimate porn with children. CSAM, on the other hand, calls it what it is: sexual abuse of children.
That is needlessly pedantic. I have never heard of anyone using the word pornography to imply legality or moral acceptability. There is no such thing as "legitimate" CP, so there is no need to specify that it's not ok every time it is mentioned. No one in their right mind would presume he's some kind of CP supporting monster for failing to do so.
If we spent more time fixing things rather than naming them the world would be a better place.
No one in their right mind would assume that OP is. But the term was created to legitimize the material. So, while you're correct in that it is picky, it is also picky for a reason. Words are powerful. We should fight to not empower the legitimation of that term, among other things.
But the term was created to legitimize the material.
Do you have a source for that? I can't find anything that states the origin of the term itself is seedy. Besides, it's just a plain description: it's pornography with children in it.
The only sources I can find that support CSAM over CP claim that CP somehow implies consent. But I'm saying that simply isn't the case. I am not saying that words arent powerful. I am not saying that no words ever need to be changed. I am saying that these words don't need to be changed.
Based on those same sources, I'd speculate that this outrage is just misplaced anger. They almost immediately start talking about how bad sexual abuse is, which is not really relevant to whether it should be called CP or CSAM. Just because CP is bad, does not mean the term CP is bad.
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I know that guy Tobias Fünke, althought he also is a analysist. He had some clever abreviation for that as well!
Bless you ❤️
I'm not gonna lie, I'm surprised it took this long for some dipshit to try something like this. Lemmy's security has more holes in it than a piece of Swiss cheese and we're fools if we think it's viable enough for it to serve as a long-term home for new social media.
We really, really need a better social structure than federation.
Lemmy’s security has more holes in it than a piece of Swiss cheese
This has very little to do with security. There's inherently "insecure" about posting CSAM, since the accounts and images were likely posted just like any other.
What really needs to happen, is some sort of detection of that kind of content (which would likely require a large change to code) or additional moderation tools.
The lack of those tools is what I was talking about
Ah okay, those arent generally considered security but I can understand why you went that route I suppose.
Does anyone know why they were never put in?
Software development is a balancing act. You need to pick and choose not only what features to add, but when to add them. Sometimes, mistakes are made in the planning and you get a situation like this.
What likely happened, is that these kinds of features were deemed less likely to be needed, since the majority of lemmy users will never run into the need of them and there is technically a way to handle the situation (nuking your instances image cache.) But you'll likely see a reshuffling of priorities if these kinds of attacks become more prevalent.
Lemmy's security
I think you mis-spelled moderation tools, nice quick fix would have been to block posts from new users on X instance and have a pinned post briefly covering why - they'll eventually run out of instances that don't have open signups IMO or just give up.
Another mod tools option would be rate limiting of posts, i.e. users can only make a new shitpost every 10-15min, rather than unlimited times per minute
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In the meanwhile, my YunoHost based instance that still hasn't managed to make Pict-RS work and therefore can't even store images even if it wanted to is doing juuuuust fine
Come to think of it, if you're the only user, it's kinda protecting you, isn't it? (hello fellow Yunohost user!)
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