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10 days after 3rd party reddit app shutdown, Lemmy's top 10 instances combine for a thriving userbase of 234,000 (lemmy.world)

submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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Current breakdown at the time of this post sorted by the number of monthly active users:

lemmy.world: 101,013 total users / 27,472 active users
lemmy.ml: 41,972 total users / 4,905 active users
beehaw.org: 12,270 total users / 4,178 active users
sh.itjust.works: 17,509 total users / 3,381 active users
feddit.de: 8,675 total users / 2,935 active users
lemm.ee: 10,348 total users / 2,751 active users
lemmynsfw.com: 22,967 total users / 2,310 active users
lemmy.fmhy.ml: 8,777 total users / 1,704 active users
lemmy.ca: 5,072 total users / 1,656 active users
programming.dev: 5,058 total users / 1,242 active users

Source: https://the-federation.info/platform/73

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[-] xantoxis@lemmy.one 241 points 11 months ago

That's pretty cool.

I'm truly not being a negative nancy but the last time I checked reddit had 400M user accounts. We should be comparing active user numbers, but either way, this is a drop in the bucket and reddit rightly does not consider Lemmy a threat to its supremacy at this point.

We're doing great though! Good trajectory.

[-] TheSpookiestUser@lemmy.world 377 points 11 months ago

I don't need Lemmy to compete with or kill Reddit. All I wanted was any one platform to get enough of an influx of users to be self-sustaining even after the outrage started to die down, which appears to have been successful.

[-] relative_iterator@sh.itjust.works 140 points 11 months ago

Yeah as long as we have an active enough community here it doesn’t matter what goes on at reddit.

[-] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 40 points 11 months ago

It kinda does in that when things worsen, more people come to Lemmy, but I agree that Lemmy's success doesn't depend on reddit's demise.

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[-] Lemmylefty@lemmy.world 110 points 11 months ago

Exactly. I don’t want or need to build another McDonalds or Starbucks; I just want to go to the Mom and Pop down the road without worrying if they’ll tank.

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[-] deranger@lemmy.world 51 points 11 months ago

I agree. Just give me some decent posts and discussion. For niche things I can go to a big platform with all the users. For my daily browsing, I appreciate a small but active community.

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[-] ReallyKinda@kbin.social 74 points 11 months ago

Personally I don’t care if I’m talking to millions of people vs hundreds of thousands as long as there are enough people to make it feel alive and like a community.

[-] Xeelee@kbin.social 36 points 11 months ago

Exactly. I don't give a fuck about Reddit any more. I'd rather be in a niche community with (some) quality content than on some huge site with mainly reposts. We're not in competition with Reddit. Were trying to be a better alternative.

[-] magnetosphere@kbin.social 40 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It’s a hard habit to break, because we’ve been trained to think this way for years, but try to remember: we don’t need to attract millions of users to be valuable. This isn’t a commercial enterprise. We don’t sell advertising. We don’t measure success by the number of eyeballs we can promise paying customers.

What matters now is the quality of conversation. In fact, that’s the ONLY measure of any consequence. It’s strange, because in the past, someone’s often tried to use services like this as a way to make money, or as a way to make something else they were selling more attractive. We expected it. It was always in the back of our heads. It even got to the point that if a company did something that wasn’t an effort to increase profitability, we criticized them. Generosity, real generosity, was alien to us.

It’s hard to wrap your head around the idea that people volunteer their time and money to build and maintain the fediverse, simply because they want us to be able to communicate. That’s it. There’s no hidden agenda. There’s no quest for profit at our expense.

I’m perfectly fine with the fediverse growing slowly. I don’t want it to be strained beyond what the mods can handle. Bigger isn’t necessarily better.

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[-] sjm@lemm.ee 25 points 11 months ago

for me i'm over comparing to Reddit, I'm just looking for somewhere in a similar format but without a bunch of the issues that I can enjoy

[-] MicroWave@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I’m truly not being a negative nancy but the last time I checked reddit had 400M user accounts. We should be comparing active user numbers, but either way, this is a drop in the bucket and reddit rightly does not consider Lemmy a threat to its supremacy at this point.

Even when considering accounts across all lemmy instances, it still only combines for a total of 2 million. But overall I'm optimistic about lemmy's trajectory too.

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[-] Jay@sh.itjust.works 94 points 11 months ago

Sorry dude, you'll have to subtract one unfortunately. I created a NSFW account to have two different home feeds.

Apologies for the inconvenience.

[-] Vex_Detrause@lemmy.ca 30 points 11 months ago

Ummm. I have a friend that has a 2nd NSFW account too.

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[-] ColonelSanders@lemmy.world 63 points 11 months ago

Not to be the fly in the ointment, but you can't really just add those up and expect that number to be accurate if we're trying to look at unique users within the fediverse. If I had to hazard a guess, a not-so-insignificant chunk of those probably overlap (i.e. users who have made multiple accounts across several instances). I have made an account across lemmy.world, lemmy.ml, kbin and fedia just as backups in case one instance fails. I might be an extreme case having 4, but pretty sure it's becoming increasingly common for people to have at least 2 accounts (1 on a different instance).

[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago

With this same logic in mind, I'd assume almost the entire population of lemmynsfw should be disregarded from this count, which is almost certainly majority comprised of people's porn alts that they want to keep separate from their main accounts.

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[-] RatzChatsubo@lemm.ee 60 points 11 months ago

I think I can confidently say now that this is a legit Reddit alternative

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[-] False@lemmy.world 55 points 11 months ago

How many if you include kbin?

[-] MicroWave@lemmy.world 68 points 11 months ago

Kbin adds another 63k.

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[-] parpol@programming.dev 49 points 11 months ago

didn't realize i picked one of the top ten instances. lots of programmers here.

[-] TheSaneWriter@lemm.ee 35 points 11 months ago

Tech enthusiasts tend to make up the early adopters of a new social media platform, and programmers tend to have some level of passion for technology.

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[-] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 48 points 11 months ago

Call me when it's 1,234,567.

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[-] sunbunman@lemm.ee 45 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I wonder how many of these are unique? I'm sure that many, like myself, have created accounts on more than 1 instance.

[-] ruck_feddit@lemmy.ml 35 points 11 months ago

Everybody needs at least two. One for regular interaction, and another for porn. I mean for science.

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[-] Coeus@coeus.sbs 40 points 11 months ago

I'm just curious what the nsfw patch does

[-] Krompus@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago

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[-] tgxn@lemmy.tgxn.net 20 points 11 months ago

There is some stuff like auto expanding content and not blurring NSFW content. Simple stuff. Hoping those features will make it back up into Lemmy soon.

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[-] anticommon@lemmy.fmhy.ml 38 points 11 months ago

Rather have 240k users here than 240m on reddit.

Sometimes it's the quality of the shit posts and not the post shits.

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[-] Salvo@aussie.zone 36 points 11 months ago

I think that Lemmy does need more of the right exposure.

If you search for any Lemmy content on Google or Duck-Duck-Go, you don’t get any good results. This is probably because most people use Apps or secure browsers that don’t allow tracking.

Maybe Duck-Duck-Go need to have a !bang search modifier for Lemmy. https://duckduckgo.com/bangs

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[-] hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago

Doing course correction in fixing social media is a long game. It'll take a while, and there'll be turbulence, but this is a great start

[-] SageWaterDragon@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago

I have high hopes for Lemmy, but I don't think that having a lot of users is going to be a super positive thing in the long term. It'd be great if it could feel like younger Reddit for longer than younger Reddit did, you know? Stay at least a little under the radar.

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[-] halfsleeveprontocool@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago

great. slowly transitioning into Lemmy from now on becuz fuck reddit

[-] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Aww poor lemmy.dbzer0.com not top ten. 😭So close at #11 though!

[-] crunchpaste@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 11 months ago

The riches of dbzer0 shall remain hidden for now.

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[-] exapsy@reddthat.com 30 points 11 months ago

and I mean, why not?

fuck reddit, and any corporation that takes advantages of its users like reddit.

We are the ones who give you value, not vica versa. Their IPO depends on how many users they have. Not on the capabilities of your app. And they treated it vica versa.

From then I just made my parade for pro-privacy and for pro-anticorp that takes advantage of its users, deleted my META account thus my Instagram, Messenger etc. My Discord. I dont care anymore. Even if I dont have now I will find someday other options. Better or not, they are options. And Lemmy seems a very good one, even better I would say, just not as user friendly - yet. (Not that reddit's app was good but we all knew that we had to use apollo/boost anyway)

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[-] weedproblem@lemmy.ca 29 points 11 months ago

How is lemmy.ca not in Canada?

[-] Shadow@lemmy.ca 24 points 11 months ago

We're just behind cloudflare, the server itself and all us admins are Canadian.

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It is surprising. A month ago they were Canadian servers, @smorks@lemmy.ca moved it to lunanode (Canadian). ~~Perhaps CDN was moved or the whole machine was moved to a cheaper hosting platform since it got very big from then and is under new admin management as of a week ago-ish.~~

Edit: found the answer from @Shadow@lemmy.ca, TL:DR is CloudFlare

Correct! The server running this and all data is stored in Canada.

Here's a blurb from a doc I'm working on:

Lemmy.ca is hosted in Canada at OVH in Beauharnois, QC with all data on a dedicated server. Backups are PGP encrypted and pushed to the OVH backup service, however these will be moved off-site in the near future.

We use Cloudflare as a security and performance layer in front of the server. They accept the traffic for Lemmy.ca through a worldwide network of ingestion points, scrub it of abusive traffic, cache the images, and pass it through an encrypted tunnel to our server. This means they can see in plain text the data sent between us including your credentials, posts, comments and images. You can read more about their policies at https://www.cloudflare.com/trust-hub/.

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[-] FxtrtTngoWhisky@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago

In looking for a replacement for Reddit, I came across this. I'm hopefully optimistic. The last straw for me in a long list of issues that I have with Reddit came yesterday. Lemmy has a long way to go, but I'm moving away from Reddit and will become active here.

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[-] donut4ever@sh.itjust.works 26 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Lemmy.world is gone forever for me. 😂 If I sign in, it tells me my log in is wrong. Then I sign on the web, it tells me to enter the 2FA code, I have never set up 2FA. Signed up with another email, kept saying captcha was wrong, then just failed and kept saying user already exists. Tried to log in with the new email that it told me it already existed, then it tells me wrong log in. I just gave up

Edit: this has been very bizarre. Resetting the password sometimes works on the mobile browser only, but not on the desktop. Then now it just never works anymore. I already reset the password once and used it to log in, but on apps it gives an "invalid token" error, on the browser it asks me to enter my 2FA code, but I've never set that. When I try to reset the password again, nothing happens Ruud@lemmy.world would you be able to take a look at this for me, please? I don't know if that's the right way to mention someone. /u/Ruud

[-] TechnoBabble@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago

You need to clear your cookies for Lemmy.world

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[-] sneezy@lemm.ee 24 points 11 months ago

Lemm.ee is omnipresent

[-] MistyQuisty@lemm.ee 26 points 11 months ago

I’m old enough to remember a simpler time before lemm.ee was in the top 10 largest instances (it was 2 days ago when I signed up)

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[-] SJ_Zero@lemmy.fbxl.net 22 points 11 months ago

A quarter million users and that's not even with all the different instances.

Very cool. Just remember folks, don't forget to diversify and decentralize! These other instances have some interesting posts and conversations, and by spreading out we make sure no single instance or community can break the fediverse.

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[-] dedido@kbin.social 21 points 11 months ago

There are dozens of us! Dozens!