I love this, but I suspect that the average person will see the last one and think, "Perfect! An orderly lawn and less insects."
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More time and effort. Bottom one takes 30 minutes to mow every 2 weeks. Each and everyone of those plants need to be maintained, trimmed and kept with weekly so it doesn’t look like a disaster. So unless you have 1-2 free hours a day, no one will be actually able to do the top and maintain it so it doesn’t turn to garbage.
You mean "so it doesn't turn to nature". You just think nature is garbage.
Once you have flowers planted they’re pretty easy to maintain. I have a much larger garden area than what’s pictured. Yes, in the spring I give up a couple of weekends to get it all established but after that it’s just watering it once a day (if required) and then enjoy it for the rest of the season.
So, that was a long winded way of telling you that you are wrong.
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It's not true for one simple reason: we need to plan NATIVE plants! They require near no maintainence and do extremely well.
All the shit you can buy from a garden store is almost always non natives that weve all been tricked into thinking is somehow better. They aren't. They suck for the ecosystem and they suck to take care of.
There is no care with native plants. There is only beautiful growth and a healthy ecosystem.
Plant. Native.
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I see the top one and think 2 things:
a) That looks like a lot of maintenance
And
b) They conveniently left out spiders, all those other bugs will attract a shit ton of spiders and I hate spiders. I like ladybugs, dragonflies, butterflies and such, but not so much that I'm willing to deal with spiders and wasps.
If someone has a way to solve both those problems I'm all for it lmao
Snakes might eat the spiders...
Large feral creatures like bobcats and wild dogs might eat the snakes...
Bears could eat the above...
At some point the detractions just might be outweighed by the benefits though:-).
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Spiders are still an important part of the ecosystem.
I'm well aware, that's why I don't advocate for their total extermination like I do mosquitoes lmao
But they can do it away from me, those assholes don't need to hang out above my door or inside my car or under my outdoor seating to be part of the ecosystem...
They're literally just vibing
I have lots of trees and shrubs in my yard with lots of spiders, but no spiders in the spots you describe. When they have better natural homes they're less likely to try to live in your spaces.
My landlord exactly. Dude hires people to spray the yard every year because God forbid ants try to approach the building. I've tried convincing him not to but he wasn't having it. I talked to my neighbor and it turns out the guy used to edge the lawn with scissors. Luckily my neighbor is way more agreeable and we're redoing his lawn more in line with the picture
A toxic moat around the house might be a better option than sterilizing all life in the garden. Also cool to look at if you color it green and install some lighting
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Middle one for me
There's a craze for plastic grass in the UK.
It looks awful and you won't even get flies, let alone anything useful. Getting dog shit out of them is a nightmare as well.
I mean.... I agree with all of you...but I hate bugs...unless they are sea bugs those I eat.
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Shit you’re telling me to get rid of those asshole grasshoppers I just need a straight path?
I’ve never found anyone else who hates grasshoppers. Somehow, everyone has a romanticized view of the chirping fiddle-legged little hell spawns.
I like the chirping
I hate the whole, "Turn into hellspawn under certain conditions and devour everything in sight"
I hate how bitey and stabby they are, I was just remarking on the romanticized view.
Yeah this is not really selling it because most people have a negative amount of interest in more bugs
most people have a negative amount of interest in more bugs
Unless they're Ubisoft.
Until people stop and realize that the birds and the bees includes bugs. It's not like we can tell them where to be, but we sure as shit need them to exist.
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If you got rid of the 🗿 you wouldn't have flies. 🗿 Spontaneously generate them.
What if I want a big stone head and a jungle and a food garden?
I don't see mosquitoes, ticks, chiggers, ants (ants especially on the vines on the house) spiders, roaches, centipedes, or a dozen other specialized bugs that eat your vegetable garden.
My yard looks like a mix of 1 and 2, but there's a lot of negatives to your daily life with any of the 3 options and this biased graphic clearly wants you to pick 1 or at least 2 over 3.
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Got a couple of acres of swamp down here. Friend of mine won't visit because of the mosquitoes. Makes sense, right? Swamp = mosquitos.
But there are hardly any! Might get buzzed twice at sundown, that's it, far worse at my home. Also, unlike everywhere else in the South, there are zero fire ants. Literally not a single ant to be found.
All because I have a robust ecosystem out there. The tiny "ground attack" spiders, whatever they're called, are legion. You won't see one unless you look for 'em, or shine a flashlight across the ground at night. 100s of thousands per acre, maybe a million+.
I got banana spiders with fat webs for traps, dragonflies and hummingbirds for helicopters and jets. Tiny lizards prowl everywhere. Tiny fish in the "ponds" eat any larva or eggs that get in there, sometimes surface bugs.
All that scales up to snakes (oddly rare), small mammals, raptors, you get the idea.
tl;dr: Healthy system = hellish Deathworld for insects.
One other note: I've cleared about 1,200sq./ft. at the main camp site. Just that tiny bit of clearing is noticeably hotter than 60'-80' down the trail. Haven't taken thermometer readings, but you can feel an easy 5°F drop. Amazing that such a small spot becomes a heat island. Now look at the top and bottom pics. Does the bottom pic look hot to you? Does the top pic evoke feelings of coolness? Yeah. Imagine what our cities, roads and fields are doing to the overall environment.
I don't have a swamp, but I have a wooded yard and can attest to most of what you said. However, in addition to the plethora of bug species and legion of spiders, I also have a shitload of mosquitos.
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I can tell you from experience that if you neglect your garden for about 15 years, it does not look like that top one at all.
Well, yea, the top one doesn't look neglected at all.
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Kill it!
🗿
Qué le dijo un moai a otro moai? no te moai
And then the city fines you once a week for “grass too tall”
Why should the city fine me for how my garden looks?
Ain’t nobody got time for that.
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