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[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 57 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I genuinely don’t believe that’s possible. The only thing you could be doing worse is nuking Gaza. I’ll accept that Trump is no better than Biden, but it’s literally not possible to be worse.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 40 points 6 months ago

Actually I think Biden is worse. Biden understands what it happening and is making calculated decisions. Trump would give zero fucks and would just support the side that gave him more contributions.

On the specific issue of Gaza, Biden is definitely worse.

[–] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 27 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

The whole "nuke Gaza" thing has never made sense. The zionist entity wants to colonize Gaza, they wouldn't irradiate the site of their future The Villages But Even More Racist development.

[–] Saeculum@hexbear.net 15 points 6 months ago

People live in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and they started rebuilding the cities pretty much immediately. Modern bombs are considerably cleaner than the ones dropped on Japan and we understand better how to mitigate the fallout.

[–] frogloom@hexbear.net 19 points 6 months ago (2 children)

no but Trump wouldn’t even have the dignity to pretend to handwring over it at least Biden would get the media to lie about things he doesn’t do behind closed doors

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 35 points 6 months ago (2 children)

at least if trump was doing it a bunch of brunch-drunk liberals would be up in arms about it.

i'd disclaim accelerationism but it's not even clear which geezer is the accelerationism candidate anymore.

[–] Aryuproudomenowdaddy@hexbear.net 25 points 6 months ago

This is basically my position on who is worse. Like they both seemingly have almost identical policies but the media and liberals shit themselves in rage when the one whose doing crimes against humanity is Trump. Biden restarted construction on "The Wall" that Dems made resisting their central optics for several years and then fucking nothing.

[–] supafuzz@hexbear.net 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Biden has done more damage to the empire than Trump could ever manage

[–] btfod@hexbear.net 18 points 6 months ago

How dare you make me want to vote for Biden

[–] marx_mentat@hexbear.net 9 points 6 months ago

Biden doesn't seem to be doing that much even. Press releases seem to be the only thing doing any wringing of hands.

[–] DirtyPair@hexbear.net 34 points 6 months ago (1 children)

100% genocide vs 101% genocide :)

[–] save_vs_death@hexbear.net 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

how dare you, our democracy is at stake, you have a duty to vote for 99 point 9 repeating percent genocide instead of 100 percent genocide

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Mathematically, 99.999999..... is exactly equal to 100.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 33 points 6 months ago

Bullshit and no amount of lib shaming is ever going to make me vote for Biden or likely anyone else for president ever again.

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 31 points 6 months ago

As I like to say, Biden is the president now

Biden is the one who can do something about it

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 29 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The current genocide is harm reduction then, I guess. Lol

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago

That's fucking dark.

[–] MorelaakIsBack@hexbear.net 27 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

trump can't handle negative approval the likes of which biden has invited with his free doling out of weapons to genocidal israel, at the very least you would expect trump's "my comfort first" brain to have forced him to knock it off by now

idk maybe that just wishful thinking. it feels true, though. the man is paper thin and obsesses over being liked

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Yea in certain respects he is worse. Such as recognition of Jerusalem as capital, recognition of Golan Heights, Abraham accords etc. But in terms of sending arms, he is just the same.

Biden isn't even acting in his best interest right now as is shown by how Reagan dealt with Israel.

Over the weekend, Vice President Kamala Harris called for an immediate ceasefire; such new pressure from the Biden administration appears to be working, as Israel and Hamas now seem closer to an agreement.

She called for a 6 week temporary ceasefire, not the same.

Trump would never face such pro-Palestinian pressure from within the Republican Party. He and his MAGA cult of Christian nationalists would never force Israel to accept a ceasefire — or a Palestinian state. Mast has harshly attacked Biden for continuing to support a two-state solution, dismissing the idea by saying that “a Palestinian state would be run by terrorists.”

That is true. However, he will face external pressure. See BLM protests.

Even the most fascist Governments have been forced to yield to external pressure. A good example being farmers protests in India. Hundreds of farmers died but at the end the fascist state had to give up.

There are limits to Biden’s support for Netanyahu. Trump and the Republican Party have none.

Bear hug

Also. two state solution isn't even a thing, its just a way for countries to continue working with Israel while paying lipservice to Palestinians . Israel doesn't want it as has been shown by settler attacks in the West Bank. So saying Trump doesn't want a two-state solution doesn't mean much.

[–] footfaults@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago

Yea in certain respects he is worse. Such as recognition of Jerusalem as capital, recognition of Golan Heights,

If Biden was actually better than Trump he would have reversed these policies. Liberals will whine about how we have to have a consistent foreign policy from administration to administration, and then watch how Trump blew up the Iran deal. It's all bullshit

[–] regul@hexbear.net 15 points 6 months ago

They're both too bad on Israel for me to vote for.

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Having seen what's happened under both, Biden is far worse

[–] Aryuproudomenowdaddy@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago

I have a friend that despite not being American, seems to keep up with all of his court cases and thinks he's made politicians in her country (Australia lmao) worse by proxy. Even she agreed that Biden has been worse for people outside the country, and at the end of the day who really gives a shit about Americans.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 13 points 6 months ago

Former head of Irgun and the founder of Likud:

"A young senator rose and delivered a very impassioned speech — I must say that it’s been a while since I’ve heard such a talented speaker — and he actually supported Operation Peace for the Galilee."

The senator — Biden — said he would go even further than Israel, adding that he’d forcefully fend off anyone who sought to invade his country, even if that meant killing women or children.

I disassociated myself from these remarks,” Begin said. “I said to him: No, sir; attention must be paid. According to our values, it is forbidden to hurt women and children, even in war… Sometimes there are casualties among the civilian population as well. But it is forbidden to aspire to this. This is a yardstick of human civilization, not to hurt civilians.

Libs: Uh aktually, Trump is the bigger Zionist.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 months ago

Cool, glad I'm not going to be supporting Trump either.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I decided I'd go to the article only to read the final paragraph. It turns out it's an excellent punchline.

There are limits to Biden’s support for Netanyahu. Trump and the Republican Party have none.

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@hexbear.net 6 points 6 months ago

We haven't seen the limits yet but trust me bro...we have em and.. and trump doesn't have limits. You think tanks running over civilians is bad bro? You don't even know bro, what limitless suffering could be.

Listen brother it's praxis to vote

fellow-kids

[–] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 5 points 6 months ago

Honestly, the next phase would be Trump publicly talking about American troops on the ground, subsequent deployments being publicized and then kicking off the cool zone.