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UVALDE, Texas (AP) — An investigation Uvalde city leaders ordered into the Robb Elementary School shooting cleared local police officers of wrongdoing Thursday, despite acknowledging a series of rippling failures during the fumbled response to the 2022 classroom attack that left 19 children and two teachers dead.

Several family members of victims walked out in anger midway though a presentation that portrayed Uvalde Police Department officers of acting swiftly and appropriately, in contrast to scathing and sweeping past reports that faulted police at every level.

“You said they did it in good faith. You call that good faith? They stood there 77 minutes,” said Kimberly Mata-Rubio, whose daughter was among those killed in the attack, after the presentation ended.

Another person in the crowd screamed, “Cowards!”

Jesse Prado, an Austin-based investigator and former police detective who made the report for the Uvalde City Council on Thursday, described several failures by responding local, state and federal officers at the scene that day: communication problems, poor training for live shooter situations, lack of available equipment and delays on breaching the classroom.

“There were problems all day long with communication and lack of it. The officers had no way of knowing what was being planned, what was being said,” Prado said. “If they would have had a ballistic shield, it would have been enough to get them to the door.”

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[-] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 31 points 3 months ago

Actual consequences and meaningful change, would be dependent on citizens not voting Republican from Governor down to town dog catcher.

[-] Nualkris@lemm.ee 23 points 3 months ago

Yet they solidly reelected the sheriff. All that matters in (most of) Texas is that you have an R after your name

[-] 108@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago

And they just re-elected the same sherif. Man, when letting children die while you cower outside is what they want I suppose.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Yes. If this isn’t enough then nothing is.

[-] wildcardology@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I'm sure the parents of uvalde robb elementary school voted against him, but the other residents voted for him because the tragedy didn't happen to them.

[-] Late2TheParty@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

What in the ACTUAL FUCK?!

[-] FMT99@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

If they didn't do anything, how could they have done something wrong? taps head

[-] FanciestPants@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

In the face of findings that they failed in every conceivable way to uphold their responsibility to the community and those that they were sworn to protect, they can fall back on, "Sure, but did we DO wrong?"

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 months ago

Welp. I am fucking enraged. Like, I can't even put it into words.

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Shame that this is what the majority of the citizens of Uvalde wanted to happen.

[-] LowtierComputer@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago
[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Use duck duck go and search for Uvalde election results.

[-] LowtierComputer@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Ah. Wow. Ok.

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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