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Rewatching ds9 right now. I know it was rushed, forced. I know trying to replace a long-term character doesn't work often. If it was an entirely different trill, not a dax, it would be better.

My problem is: aren't trills supposed to have other lives when they get a symbiont? Goal is to give the symbiont diverse lives, experiences. Jadzia got in serious trouble when she felt drawn to a woman from a previous host relationship. She would have had her symbiont removed.

So the new dax host being a woman, starfleet, in ds9 space station? Isn't that against trill rules?

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[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 37 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The Ezri host had a different skillset (counselor) and I think rank. Being as they were in the middle of a war, the Trill can't have been too picky about her field post and her acceptance of the Dax symbiote happened under strained conditions.

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 34 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Dax knows the deep, dark secret kept by the Trill Symbiosis Commission. They'd be wise to leave her alone.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

That gives me....feelings.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 28 points 8 months ago

They address this directly in the series don't they? It's a plot point for more than one episode. Isn't there a whole discussion between Ezri and her mom in that episode where she goes home?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago

Ezri was already in Starfleet when the Dax symbiont was transferred to her in emergency circumstances. She then took a leave of absence, sought out Sisko since he was familiar to the symbiont. After they had an adventure together, Sisko had her transfer to DS9 with a promotion.

I doubt Trill would force her to quit Starfleet and find another line of work under those circumstances.

[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Besides what everyone else has said, she was also having issues with space sickness and the station was more stationary and caused her less issues.

Terry Farrell wanted to be a recurring character in DS9, she just didn't want to do it full time anymore. When her contract period came to an end at the end of season 6, and no one approached her about renewing it, she decided it was her que to leave. But instead of having her leave the station, they decided to just completely kill her character off. I feel like she may have well stayed seeing it was canceled in the next season.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

If only it were that simple. "The problems with my leaving were with Rick Berman"

TLDR: Sexist ass-hat troubled her (among others) enough that she was "let go" rather than allow her role be diminished.

Interesting, I didn't know that. Thanks.

[–] ItsAFake@lemmus.org 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Sisko was Kurzons friend who both Jadzia and ezri were friends with, I think that specific trill rule is to do with having a romantic relationship with a past hosts partner, which is where the issues with worf came into play, it's probably fine for them to be friends, but it would be a fine line.

[–] z00s@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Was there some kind of behind the scenes reason why the actress who played Jadzia left? I've always wondered about that.

[–] klemptor@startrek.website 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Rick Berman was a relentless misogynistic pig who gave Terry Farrell so much shit about her figure and told her she'd end up working retail if she left DS9. She tried negotiating her Season 7 contract to go down to guest star but it fell through.

[–] z00s@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago
[–] derf82@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

She knew the series was winding down and had the opportunity to jump into a new series that could keep providing a paycheck, namely Becker. Also, because Rick Berman sucks.

https://trekmovie.com/2011/08/03/terry-farrell-wanted-recurring-role-for-star-trek-ds9s-final-season/

https://www.cbr.com/star-trek-why-terry-farrell-jadzia-dax-left-ds9/

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Ezri wasn’t an initiate of the symbiosis commission. She got Dax in an emergency. She likes isn’t held to the same standards.