Their fault. They removed all the real stressors but didn’t give us brains that can cope with not being stressed. Now we have to pull stress out of thin air—or grapefruit.
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Is this why city people don't use their eyes n ears to prevent being killed in rural settings?
I'd love to hear your explanation of how that's related in the slightest.
Disassociation maybe?
I used to think my hearing loss and visual impairment was the reason I got so stressed walking through a car park - I can't hear cars and I can't always tell if a slow moving car is indeed moving.
But that made no sense because I have no issues getting around a bus depot and public transport interchange. I'll be fine navigating the streets with buses, trams, bikes and pedestrians, but as soon as I step into the parking lot I suddenly can't detect obstacles properly.
My partner pointed out thatI very clearly dissociate when I'm in a car park. I've conditioned myself to feel anxious in car parks (from when I was younger before I learned to navigate with my disability, the fear of car parks did not make sense) so now I pre-emptively check out and try to navigate on autopilot, which makes it more dangerous and anxiety inducing, making me dissociate more.
As soon as I realised that I was dissociating and that was the problem, I started working on it and now I have no greater level of disorientation in a car park than anywhere else.
"They removed all the real stressors"
Yes and the rest of the meme is joking about how everyone's on high alert because of it, so again I ask why you'd think it has to do with them "dying." Why couldn't it be because those country are also experiencing removed stressors and are killing people who are who are visiting the country because they too are high alert and they have guns?
(The real answer is that this isnt happening at a statistically significant rate and you're hearing it on the news which is skewing representation)
Nah I was talking about them obliviously walking in front of heavy equipment or acting like everything is harmless. Your little rant says more about you than anything.else.
That's right it does, it says that In constantly deal with bad faith arguments
Yes. I'm honestly confident, if a bear doesn't have headlights, I would be mauled.
Grapefruit method?
This just reminded me of a moment I had, years ago.
I was so stressed from work, working on my 6th burnout for the year.
I was meant to be getting stuff for dinner from the supermarket.
I had money, that wasn't the issue. But I didn't have a shopping list. My partner and I had just briefly discussed myself 'picking up something' on my way home.
I was paralyzed. My thoughts wouldn't align or connect. I couldn't think of any dinner option we'd ever had. So I couldn't configure a shopping list in my head. I think I stood in the canned vegetable aisle and just stared ahead, trying not to cry.
I ended up sitting on a bench in the middle of the shopping centre trying to write a list on my phone. Eventually I had to call my partner and tell him I wasn't okay and he needed to come get me.
Long story lacking events I know. But this meme made me think. Short of family emergency/death of loved ones, work is the only thing that has placed that kind of stress on me. Even in grief I have a sense of one foot in front of the other for any particular task. But burn out made me immobile. Completely saturated my brain and made it stop working.
Our brains aren't built for that. They shouldn't be.
My wife works a high-stress job. Every day I make sure to tell her to please don't take anything that happens today (at work) too seriously. It's just a day job. I worry about how it's going to affect her in her old age. Some days, after work, you'd swear she's been chased by bear or something.
See my above response. It's honestly not helpful advice sometimes.
Often the only answer is quitting/doing something completely different. And that often isn't possible for people.
Burnout is the death by a thousand cuts. It's not usually "this ONE thing about my job sucks". It's typically "this is due, that is due, this person is a dick, we have a massive project coming up that we're not prepared for, this person isn't contributing enough, etc".
All these little things beat us down, And it's important to figure, which ones you have no control over, and which can you solve. Try to stop worrying about the ones without control and attempt to focus on those that can be fixed. It may not be all of them but it should help.
Oh I work for myself now, this was years ago, I'm a far better employer :)
But be careful with this kind of advice. Some people's jobs require that they do need to worry about things they can't control. Other people, namely. And that's literally the job description.
The addict's prayer or whatever it's called is not applicable to a lot of jobs.
To be fair, there's still an element of what you can/can't control as a people manager. Depending on the job, you can control the training your people get, the cadence of check ins, the deadlines/milestones they're supposed to meet, etc.
You can't directly control the people, and if someone doesn't take any of what you provide re: support for them to do the thing despite your efforts, you can't control that. But in turn, you can control performance improvement plans, 1-on-1s to figure out if there's an underlying problem/cause that can be addressed, or failing all else, elements of the process that eventually show said person the door.
Doesn't mean that all of this isn't stressful as fuck, or that you're not subject to downwards pressure too.
This is all an aside - I'm legit happy you're doing better working for yourself!
Your ancestors would be panicking worse at the grocery store, they couldn’t possibly conceive of something like a refrigerator.
Yeah honestly society to them might be some terrible psychological horror. The small things you can do to get you arrested like walking into a forest (trespassing), removing restrictive garments (public nudity), sleeping in a comfy field of grass in the one area without monolithic grey cliffs (sleeping in a park where it's not allowed), picking up and using a tool (theft) etc etc. It's a nightmare realm with black magic machines, eternal sun indoors, unclean air, no natural food sources in cities, loud sounds everywhere and uncooperative people.
And you can't just go and find food somewhere, you have to integrate and get some form of a job, or income source. If you don't have any of the magic green stuff, you starve.
i think thats the worst one
no they definitely could, people in the past would try to figure out how stuff worked and if they couldn't they chalked it up to magic and went on with their day.
remember that for most of human history people genuinely and whole-heartedly believed magic was real and it wast just a part of daily life.
Yeah I'd like to see them pick between 17 kinds of peanut butter.
I think the caveman wouldn't fare any better :)
There was a (possibly unethical) experiment where scientists tried to induce stress symptoms (lack of appetite, depression, panic, etc.) in rats.
They found that sudden scares or bringing the rats face-to-face with predators had little long term effect. But placing them on a floor with a constant, slightly uncomfortable electric current (low-level stress over a longer period) did cause them to develop all the symptoms.
So perhaps we're just not naturally equipped to deal with permanent time pressure, upcoming appointments and deadlines in the way modern society gives them to us.
If you put a caveman in a busy Woolies aisle they would 100% chimp out and kill someone in order to escape.
well that's very specifically why you're having a panic attack in a grocery store: we're evolved to handle occasional clearly defined threats like hungry lions, so when we're then instead exposed to constant low-level threats that we can't do shit about, our brains frazzle out.
We're constantly running at threat level: wolf-fight imminent. Its just we don't know where the wolf we're supposed to fight is. And it stresses us out
The modern wolves are the corporations responsible for shrinkflation, and causing us all decision fatigue by offering too many different brands with too many different meaningless-but-slightly different options.
I'm pretty sure they'd be proud and confused
"Wow, look at the amount of food our descendant can choose from. They'll never go hungry. Look they're even shaking with excitement in the cereal aisle. Huh, they're crying while standing in front the boxes. Must be tears of joy. And now they've fallen over and curled up in a ball... Weird."
"I think they're having a panic attack."
"What? Why?"
"I think they can't decide which cereal to buy."
"But there's so many to pick from, they can just grab any one of them and be set."
"Yeah I think that may be the problem, they got stuck deciding which one to grab and shut down."
"But they can just grab any of them."
"But what if they grab the wrong one?"
"I don't understand."
"Don't worry, they don't either."
- Based on a true story (I didn't know they made a new kind of Honey Bunches of Oats and it broke me once)
They'd smile upon you if they saw how relatively easily you can access such an abundance of food
Yeah, I've seen their porn statues, they'd be all for the obesity epidemic.
God help them if someone shows them the Pornhub BBW tag.
Honestly, there’s good odds their interpretation would be ‘poor kid, they’re getting fucked with by the spirits.’
Honestly, it's their fault for not being properly protective ancestors.
There's a good chance some of your ancestors became cat food. They probably understand stress
skill issue
That ancestor is way too old and by a long shot, the average prehistoric lifespan was around twenty years.
And who's to say they wouldn't have panicked also at being surrounded by twenty brands of cheddar jalapeño onion ranch cheese puffs and a hundred similar sugar flavors of sugar-filled cereal with a sugar coating on top as part of this complete nutritious breakfast?
Average lifespan is heavily influenced by infant mortality. If you made it to age 20 without dying there was a good chance you would make it to 60+.
I'm pretty sure as they were fighting wild animals, they were all Y'know, this sucks. Let's invent things so our children's children never have to fight wild animals just to live.
I think I'd prefer taking on the occasional mountain lion with my tribe to working 50 hr weeks, but I guess they made the choice for me.
You can still do that if you really want to
Nah, the people at the zoo tend to frown on that.
almost: nobles made the choice for you.
the majority of our ancestors are just people, who did the obvious thing and worked towards making life as easy and enjoyable as possible.
but then some ten thousand years ago nobles became a thing and ever since then they've exploited the common people for their own gain, and instead worked to make life MORE stressful for the average person because they didn't give a shit about them.
make your ancestors proud: eat the rich
Agriculture is the culprit. As hunter-gatherers, there wasn't enough food to create winter stores, and we had to migrate towards the equator during winter months and back during the hot summer. Then we developed growing enough that we could homestead and stay in place with winter stores (and get cabin fever).
Then raiders figured out they could raid homesteads, and some raiders figured out they could just tax the homesteads in a protection racket, though it meant protecting them from other raiders. And bam! Feudalism!
(Later on we'd realize, with generations and generations, that one Joffrey or John of England or Caligula can bring to ruin the legacy of ten fair and just kings prior to them, and we didn't really get fair and just all that often. Now we're still trying to figure out how to prevent aristocrats, plutocrats and autocrats from consolidating power away from the people. It's a sociological development we don't have yet.)
Yes, modern primitives work eight hours a week compared to us. On the other hand, it's not the mountain lions. It's famine and plague that will kill you (and your family) horribly. The ones killed by a wandering bear are the lucky ones.
I guarantee 30 mins in walmart with me, and I'd have made the first serial killer when I send them back.
The grocery store is not my friend. I feel this meme.