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One of the things platforms use to keep us coming back and investing more of our time in building their site for them, is Internet Points. They don't do anything, but we still crave them.

On Reddit, these Internet Points are, of course, called "karma"

In moving on from Reddit, I'm burning over 80k karma.
It feels fine. I mean, it has no real value, and bots can scrounge up that amount of karma in an afternoon, but it still represents a sizable time investment.

How much are you burning, and how do you feel about it?

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[–] mrmanager 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I feel manipulated by the karma. It has no value and yet I care when i get downvoted. It's a huge warning sign to get off reddit and into a healthier community.

I had like 20000 karma on some previous reddit account i deleted a few years back. Current one has 3000 karma or so. Because I post a lot, and I wrote things people agree with usually. But it's a echo chamber, and once I start to limit myself to writing things that are "safe" from a karma point of view, I'm literally just supporting the entire karma system.

It's something very Chinese about these points. They have this social system where citizens have a score, and if they get too low, they can't get loans and whatnot. Pretty much what the show black mirror was showing, and China now has it.

[–] demonen@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Are you questioning The Party, comorade?

[–] Synthuir@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

35k karma, 11.5yrs.

I agree, though I don’t think we should limit this discussion to ‘1984-with-Chinese-characteristics’, lest we ignore the similar ways that western countries are sliding into authoritarianism. We have a vast body of literature warning us about these dystopic futures awaiting us, so it’ll be only us to blame if we don’t heed their warnings.

[–] Raphael@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

It’s something very Chinese about these points. They have this social system where citizens have a score, and if they get too low, they can’t get loans and whatnot. Pretty much what the show black mirror was showing, and China now has it.

That's not China, that's the USA. It's called Credit Score, in America you go to jail if it gets too low.

[–] Kenshiro@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I was part of a very contentious sub where the community was pretty toxic and you had two groups always clashing. It went in waves...for a few months one side would be "stronger" and get more karma and then it would switch to the other. I got addicted to the drama and shit stirring but now I'm realizing that it didn't do a lot of good for my mental health. I was spending way too much time there and thinking of the ideal retort or how to show people on the other side that their arguments were stupid and so they were. Ultimately for what? I'm sure a lot of the people there were shitposting from several accounts at the same time. The mods were pretty useless or subtly encouraged the drama. It was all a big waste of time.

[–] CoffeeTails@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have ~5100 karma, I've never really cared about the total karma amount but it is fun to see a comment or post be upvoted. They feel like social points and that makes me think of "that" episode of Black Mirror, and as @mrmanager@lemmy.today said, China has implemented that. It's crazy.

But as I always say, in the end, the people have the power. Always.

[–] demonen@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Yep, and we kinda get that same sort of dopamine hit here, just not the global karma, because there is no central place to collect global points!

[–] Willy@latte.isnot.coffee 4 points 1 year ago

About 90k. It’s fine. I care less about the karma then I do about loosing the community’s, but they were going downhill for a long time anyway.

[–] TWeaK@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

200k+ comment karma, from 75,000 comments. I've run PowerDeleteSuite, but it hasn't quite got everything. I think I need to use the GDPR request csv files to get the comments that don't display in the profile, but I'm looking for something that will automate this.

[–] demonen@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll be filing a GDPR right-to-be-forgotten request, so Reddit has to do it for me.

[–] TWeaK@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Make sure you do a GDPR data request first. The csv files contain a lot of stuff (although they don't contain any associated accounts they believe you have), in particular there are links to every comment. Your profile doesn't show every single comment you've ever made, and if you just delete your account they will delete the user but leave the comments up.

So you have to do it carefully. PowerDeleteSuite is good, however as I say it only has access to what's on your profile - many older comments with lower karma will be missed.

It should be straightforward to use the csv files to extract the links and edit + delete from there, in the same way that PSD does it from the profile, but I'm still looking for something that does that.

[–] demonen@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep, I've already requested that, and when it arrives I'll likely build something to do it manually if they don't comply properly with my request to be forgotten. I'd take them to court over it, but meh, I don't have the energy.

[–] TWeaK@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think it would be a "take them to court" job - in particular you'd struggle to prove actual damages. However you most definitely can report them to your country's Information Commissioner's Office, then leave the matter with them.

I kind of feel like they'll just brush it under the rug, though. But really that is the correct course of action.

[–] EonNShadow@pawb.social 2 points 1 year ago

27k here, not terribly worried about it honestly.

[–] BobQuasit@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

107k. But what really matters to me are the thanks I got from people I helped out with book recommendations.

[–] binchicken@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

Like a few thousand across five accounts? I had closer to 10k on an old account that I deleted entirely a few years ago, after redacting all my comments. Always been more of a lurker than an active user.

[–] RQG@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am still a bit dumbfounded as to why people care about an arbitrary number.

I looked it up now and apparently it is over 400000. But it still doesn't do anything right?

[–] ram@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

170k, I don't mind at all though. I only got it because I thought it was funny to have a big number.

[–] theluddite@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Not my account, but my bot, thebenshapirobot, just reached 600,000 karma in about a year and a half. I was always hoping it'd get to a million karma while trolling Ben Shapiro. The bot is currently off as part of the blackout, and frankly I have no idea if the API changes will affect it because I haven't bothered to read them.

[–] LUHG_HANI@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure about 30k for a 3 year old account. Had multiple over 10 years. I just used to delete them when it got attention from the Admins.

Turns out saying fuck /u/gallowboob for his bullshit admin abuse makes them really mad at you. DMs and site wide bans from big subs is easily done.

Hope Reddit dies and they have no power.

[–] johndroid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

360k and ten years.

Such a waste of time. This was what I needed to make healthier choices. Less time spent scrolling, less time commenting. Lemmy is my methodone right now.

[–] hydra@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Around 700 karma. Let it burn, we should abolish karma forever since it only promotes echo chambers and stiffles actual discussion.

[–] D4gma@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I discovered reddit not so long ago, since I am not a social kind of person I mainly lurked there for memes, info and news about my hobbies and humor in general. Never had the crave for karma points (or Internet points in general) but I can understand it. Posted a comment about world of warcraft that reached almost 5000 karma (i really don't know why, but as I said I was not into the reddit mechanics, so maybe I am the one that cannot get the point). I think it's quite a lot for only one comment!

[–] Kerrangutan@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

Im one point short of 125k karma, I'm frankly stunned that my 9 years of shitposts and random sarcasm had been appreciated that much

[–] vis4valentine@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I have 200K. Most of it I got it from reposting lol.

70k combined

[–] megane_kun@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've never really been much of a poster, so I've only managed to earn roughly 6.5k karma (shared across a few accounts) in my almost a decade in Reddit.

While it feels nice to have that feeling of validation upon seeing my response being invited, I didn't really feel going out of my way to be more active for some reason.

I think my longest and last account was around 26k. End of an era