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[–] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

A communist country will never be allowed to exist in a capitalist society because if it did the world would see just how much better things are when you don't have greedy millionares running the show.

[–] somethingchameleon@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 months ago

Yep. And crapitalists know this.

Which is why they don't play fair.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

If their production methods are so superior why can’t they produce enough food for their own people? Shortages of manufactured goods I can understand—many require skilled labor or high-tech industries, or rare metals that may not be available on the island. But surely they should be able to grow food with this superior system. All that takes is seeds, soil, and sun.

For the record I agree that capitalists running the economy and treating everyone like slaves is bad. But it doesn’t then follow that the Cuban model is automatically better.

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The "Cuban model" has worked well considering the decades-long embargo it has placed on a country that hasn't been a material threat to the US since the Cuban missile crisis.

That being said, a modern economy simply cannot function without international trade: what of things like medical supplies that require metals and chemicals only found in some countries? What about fuel? What about semiconductors?

Not only that, but Cuba has to pay a LOT more than other countries to access those basic necessities of modern living, because the US embargo essentially bans OTHER countries from trading with the US if they dare to dock with Cuba first.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yes, the embargo is harmful but that’s not what I’m curious about.

That’s why I asked specifically about agriculture. There are plenty of examples of people sustaining their own food needs with minimal technology. Without industrial equipment or inputs, there may be a need for more human labor but it should still be doable.

My sense is that the embargo provides a convenient excuse to blame external conditions for the failings of a flawed, authoritarian production model. But I am really not very knowledgeable about Cuba so I am open to being convinced.

[–] tal 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Responding to the State Department's comments, Díaz-Canel said: “They're always looking for justifications and turning things around. The most absurd thing is that they have applied a criminal blockade against us for more than 65 years. That is the absurdity.”

Not a blockade. An embargo, which is the US itself not trading with Cuba.

A blockade is when you militarily-force everyone else not to trade with them as well. If the US had blockaded Cuba, nobody would be coming in or out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockade

blockade is the act of actively preventing a country or region from receiving or sending out food, supplies, weapons, or communications, and sometimes people, by military force. A blockade differs from an embargo or sanction, which are legal barriers to trade rather than physical barriers

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The wording is irrelevant.

It's an antiquated, devastating and unwarranted sanction against a non-aggressive country.

The US stops itself and other countries from trading with Cuba because they are "communists", which is a ridiculous and hypocritical reason to cripple a country when the largest US trading partner is China.

If other countries trade with Cuba, the us has passed laws so that the us can sanction other countries, companies and individuals.

Every country votes every year to end the US' vindictive, barbaric globally coercive embargo artist Cuba except for the US and Israel.