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In the valet’s account, laid out in a transcript obtained by The New York Times, an agitated Mr. Trump pressured Mr. Pence to overturn the election and stewed about Mr. Pence’s refusal for hours after violence engulfed Congress. Told that a civilian had been shot outside the House chamber amid the mob attack, he recalled, Mr. Trump appeared unconcerned.

“I just remember seeing it in front of him,” the valet said of a note card Mr. Trump was given bearing news of the casualty as he watched the riot unfold on television. “I don’t remember how it got there or whatever. But there was no, like, reaction.”

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[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 93 points 6 months ago (3 children)

All Pence had to do was go on the Sunday morning political shows and say that Biden had won and that there was no way that the Congress would do anything except put Biden in office.

Instead he put his family in danger because he didn't want to be seen as disloyal to a man who despised him

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 49 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Exactly.

Trump was not wrong that his career with republicans was basically ended. However, Pence was ideally setup to end Trump's career. Had he testified in the impeachment hearing, it would have been DAMN hard for the republicans to spin that as "Oh, opsie, this was just a little crimin'"

Instead, the dipshit thought he'd be loved enough to get a presidential nomination this year (TF?!?!). He's a moron.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 21 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I always think of Pence as Renfield to Trump's Dracula. A worm serving a snake.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Damn now that's the perfect description right there

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago

Pence wishes he looked that good.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I mean, whatever he did or didn't do, he's a "conservative". Don't expect them to grow a spine...

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

They have no problem declaring a war; or sending kids to school with a bulletproof backpack; or making a 10 year old have a baby, but don't expect them to have to deal with consequences.

[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

I bet mother won’t let him do that

[–] wagesj45@kbin.run 19 points 6 months ago

Well Trump wasn't wrong. Pence is cooked in politics as long as the MAGA crowd run the Republican party, which I think they will for the foreseeable future. I'm sure he'll find some kind of consulting gig or maybe a podcast or radio show that panders to the ultra religious evangelicals or something, but I can't imagine him getting elected anywhere for now.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

If they had gone further with the coup, it would have been life ending for him. Sounds like he came out ahead.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

Jokes on Trump, being Mike Pence is already a 'Career Killer'.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 12 points 6 months ago

IDK, Pence has his gig with the Heritage Foundation at least. Trump as far as I can tell may actually need the president salary to live on, if he winds up declaring bankruptcy.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 4 points 6 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


“Did you hear the president say that?” a staff investigator for the House Jan. 6 committee asked the valet, inquiring about reports that Mr. Trump had called Mr. Pence an expletive meant to refer to a wimp.

They have suggested that the panel did not release certain transcripts because they contradict some of the testimony from a prominent witness, Cassidy Hutchinson, who served as an aide to Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff at the time.

“It took a whole lot of work to get these,” Representative Barry Loudermilk, a Republican of Georgia who is leading the G.O.P.’s investigation, said of the transcript of the valet’s testimony and a batch of others he obtained from the White House and the Department of Homeland Security.

In court filings, though, federal prosecutors who have charged Mr. Trump with crimes for his role in the effort to overturn the 2020 election have said some of the committee’s transcripts were subject to confidentiality agreements, and those were sent to the White House and Secret Service for review and redactions before they could be released.

Representative Bennie Thompson, the Mississippi Democrat who chaired the House Jan. 6 committee, said nothing in the valet’s account changes the essential facts of what his panel uncovered about Mr. Trump’s role in summoning supporters to Washington to challenge the election results and doing nothing to stop their attack at the Capitol.

The valet also testified that Mr. Trump expressed an interest on Jan. 6 in speaking to General Mark A. Milley, then the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Speaker Nancy Pelosi about sending the National Guard to the Capitol — a step that has been a matter of much dispute given the hourslong delay in the troops’ eventual arrival.


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