268
submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by ForgottenFlux@lemmy.world to c/privacyguides@lemmy.one

The decision followed a New York Times report this month that G.M. had, for years, been sharing data about drivers’ mileage, braking, acceleration and speed with the insurance industry. The drivers were enrolled — some unknowingly, they said — in OnStar Smart Driver, a feature in G.M.’s internet-connected cars that collected data about how the car had been driven and promised feedback and digital badges for good driving.

If the article link contains a paywall, you can consider reading this alternative article instead: 'GM Stops Sharing Driver Data With Brokers Amid Backlash' on Ars Technica.

all 20 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] walter_wiggles@lemmy.nz 81 points 3 months ago

The article is pay walled, but there's no way they're not selling that data. They'll just sell it to a different middleman that isn't technically a "data broker".

[-] PeachMan@lemmy.world 42 points 3 months ago

Yeah it's a data broker broker. Totally legit.

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

“We didn’t sell it to a data broker. We sold it to Jeff. Not our fault if Jeff sold it to a data broker”

[-] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 38 points 3 months ago

promised feedback and digital badges for good driving.

"you don't drive like a total asshole; here's a gold star!"

Vs

"you've used your brakes more than once today; heres a 30% insurance rate hike"

[-] something_random_tho@lemmy.world 31 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

How did this happen in the first place, and why aren’t heads rolling? This was a shockingly bad decision that caused massive damage to their brand for a comparatively small amount of money. Even if they roll this back, I just don’t trust them anymore.

[-] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one 32 points 3 months ago

Nearly all auto companies were found to collect data, not just GM. They are probably all selling that data.

[-] something_random_tho@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Same question posed to them.

But notably the EU companies (e.g. Audi, Mercedes, BMW), while they have poor privacy scores from Mozilla, were not actively selling your data to brokers to hike your insurance rates. So there’s that.

[-] Maeve@kbin.social 14 points 3 months ago

They are. Mozilla provided a comprehensive report on several major car manufacturing corporations selling data to all kinds of brokers.

[-] mick@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Doubt any heads will roll. I bet this feature was approved by the C-suite and board of directors. Look, we can create two revenue streams with one simple offer—get car buyers to subscribe to On Star so we can collect data, and then sell the data. All legal because nobody reads the fine print in the contract.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

. . . Because the auto industry is a true bastion of male privilege and they’re all crazy rich?

They’re above the law. And that clown show in DC isn’t going to do shit so long as republiQans have the votes to stop it.

[-] ericjmorey@discuss.online 2 points 3 months ago

Why would heads roll? Those heads are being rewarded by the Boards of Directors.

Congress has no incentive to legislate this, voters don't prioritize privacy, financial interests that benefit from the status quo include the largest companies in the USA.

[-] oDDmON@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

Now the other manufacturers just need to do the same.

[-] Dreizehn@kbin.social 11 points 3 months ago

Tracked through On Star. According to the data, my use of regenerative braking makes me a hard breaker, but the pads are 70%.

[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago
[-] GasMaskedLunatic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

To be resumed at the end of the month, I'm sure.

[-] Binthinkin@kbin.social 5 points 3 months ago

Remember Rudy Russo. There is a reason car salesman were parodied back in the day. It’s because the auto industry is full of crooks and shitbags from top to bottom.

[-] nyahlathotep@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

Yeah, sure. Who tf, in 2024, would believe that?

this post was submitted on 22 Mar 2024
268 points (100.0% liked)

Privacy Guides

16080 readers
243 users here now

In the digital age, protecting your personal information might seem like an impossible task. We’re here to help.

This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.


You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:

Learn more...


Check out our website at privacyguides.org before asking your questions here. We've tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!

Want to get involved? The website is open-source on GitHub, and your help would be appreciated!


This community is the "official" Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be verified here. Other "Privacy Guides" communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.


Moderation Rules:

  1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.
  2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, make a suggestion on our forum first.
  3. No soliciting engagement: Don't ask for upvotes, follows, etc.
  4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be pre-approved by the mod team.
  5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.
  6. Don't repost topics which have already been covered here.
  7. News posts must be related to privacy and security, and your post title must match the article headline exactly. Do not editorialize titles, you can post your opinions in the post body or a comment.
  8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.
  9. No help vampires: This is not a tech support subreddit, don't abuse our community's willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.
  10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with evidence.
  11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on privacyguides.org. See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.
  12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.

Additional Resources:

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS