Tech company, they love E-Waste. Your thing can still play fine? Fuck you, buy our new shit that have all those advanced privacy invasive tracker loaded into it, and let us snoop around so we can share your info with other tech company.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 32 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I still can't fathom people are somehow okay with buying a device that is, by design and function, festooned with cameras and microphones from goddamn Facebook and waving it around inside their homes. Like, what?

[–] ji59@kbin.social 34 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I bought Oculus Quest 1. OCULUS! Facebook promised to leave them alone, for them to remain oculus, But after a year or so, merging started, firstly with oculus accounts vanishing into fb, then renaming to Meta Quest and now the only thing that remain is logo.

[–] yoyolll@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What exactly is a promise from Facebook worth? You saw what happened to Palmer Luckey (although he is wiping those tears with crisp hundred dollar bills).

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

Nothing, since they've already lied about the ongoing account integration requirements for their various VR products, like, three (?) major times so far. I don't trust a damn thing they say about anything.

If Meta told me the sky was blue I'd be searching for independent verification.

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[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 17 points 7 months ago (3 children)

By killing the product completely they're forcing their users to upgrade. It's always profits man, that's always the reason

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[–] Gigasser@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Better to have invested in a Valve Index I feel than get an Oculus. Might be more expensive, but I trust Valve to not completely fuck over their consumers.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Why should they be able to do this?

Because we own nothing now.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 158 points 7 months ago (8 children)

Oh no, Meta is shutting down official support for an old system?

Good thing nobodys made an alternate store front that's piss easy to use on any of their devices and gives 0 fucks about their rules, that would make their dickheaded moves almost entirely pointless!

[–] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 48 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Does this make it possible to use the headset without ever having a Meta account? That's the only way I'd be willing to interact with a Quest device.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Lol, of course not, you have to make an account to enable developer options to enable side loading

The stealing of our data is how they make the headset so cheap

[–] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Hopefully, someone is sitting on a root workaround, and will reveal it once the updates stop.

I'd buy a second hand one, if there was a way to use it without any meta involvement.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 7 months ago (5 children)

I'm expecting it, tbh

I have a quest 2 and it's actually a FANTASTIC headset, but I want to rip the meta shit out

Not even because they're a gross company (tho they are), I use a burner account with burner info and play in a gray room through a router specifically for my VR (almost completely lag free wireless this way, it works) but because I HATE that they made you have arms in an update and didn't let us turn it off. They're horrid

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I have a quest 2 and it’s actually a FANTASTIC headset

Yes, because of John Fifth-Dimensional-Being-Pretending-to-be-a-Human Carmack.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 7 months ago

"oh, do you need me to just invent the fundamental technology for a massive sector of computing again? Sure, no problem, have it to ya by Friday"

John Carmack on multiple occasions

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[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 88 points 7 months ago (4 children)

"BuT MeTa aNd TheIr MoNeY ArE GOOD FoR VR!!!!!!!!!"

I warned everyone. I warned everyone back in, like, 2016.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 42 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The second I heard Facebook bought Oculus, I knew it'd be ewaste. Fuck zuck and any piece of shit greedy pig like him.

[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I was so excited about Oculus up until the acquisition.

They’re still doing interesting things I just can’t approach anything Meta does with enthusiasm.

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[–] glimse@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

My BIL's friend was an engineer at Oculus and he was so sad when they got bought out. He works at Meta now (golden handcuffs) and says it's ok but not all that fun anymore.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 16 points 7 months ago

I remember the dev of Frog Fractions was doing a kickstarter back then. After the announcement of Facebook buying Occulus, they put up a new bonus goal of 2 billion: "Buy occulus back"

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 69 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So, they're basically forcing it into the junk pile, even if developers want to support it. What a terrible company.

[–] Dashmezzo@lemm.ee 46 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Well it is meta. I am surprised they didn’t make them all just catch fire and burn down the owners houses.

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[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 67 points 7 months ago (1 children)

lol it’s not even 5 years old?!? I appreciate Zuc giving me another reason to not buy their hardware

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 8 points 7 months ago

It’ll be five years old this may. It’s four, going in five.

[–] KuroiKaze@lemmy.world 34 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Meanwhile my OG oculus rift is still working fine

[–] zzx@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Same. CV1. Fuck Facebook

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 31 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"Because climate change doesn't exist, so fuck you and fuck your grand children's children. Our bottom line is what matters" - every company ever

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[–] MolochAlter@lemmy.world 27 points 7 months ago (6 children)

It should still work fine with SteamVR right? I'm not too pressed.

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[–] bigmclargehuge@lemmy.world 27 points 7 months ago (6 children)

The only silver lining is that this will encourage the homebrew scene to take off. The same thing happened with the PS Vita as soon as support started to wane.

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[–] UnaSolaEstrellaLibre@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Is there a homebrew scene with these Quest devices?

[–] antidote101@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, via SideQuest (which is a sideloader program), and most game engine support quest development. However it wouldn't surprise me if Meta were able to prevent that.

They really are horrible to devs, they offer no real support, especially for Unreal devs, and their dev forums are practically dead because of this.

They don't understand how to encourage devs. I was thinking of getting a Meta Quest 3, but seeing this post has me reconsidering the idea.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

God I hope so. This is ludicrous. People are still developing NES games ffs! A friend of mine did.

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[–] fidodo@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago (2 children)

We thank you for being our beta testers, now fuck right off

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[–] DdCno1@kbin.social 23 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

A similar thing will happen with WMR headsets in November of 2026, by the way (they'll work beyond that, but you can't download the software anymore after that date):

https://www.uploadvr.com/windows-mixed-reality-headset-support-end-date/

Since these depend on Windows itself, I don't think there will be an easy (or even possible) workaround.

Sad news, because these are cheap, high-res, fast to set up, easy to use and generally very decent headsets. Controllers are not top of the class, but good enough for almost anything. Ideal for people interested in tipping their toes into proper PCVR.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There are already third party/open source drivers being developed for WMR hardware, though. Like Monado.

It's unlikely WMR headsets will be completely unusable after M$ drops support, but A) they will still work with existing systems, B) third party software will hopefully be okayish by then and C) it will almost certainly be possible to "pirate" the Microsoft WMR application(s) the same way it is already possible to manually re-add modules back into Windows that have been officially discontinued.

[–] DdCno1@kbin.social 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for informing me about Monado, but it seems like it's exclusive to Linux. That's hardly ideal. Then again, it's more than two years until November of 2026, so a lot might happen until then.

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[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 7 months ago (7 children)

Yeee anybody who bought these as an actual standalone headset is in for a rude awakening of how console gaming works and how app store monopolies and vertical integration are able to offer you prices that massively undercut the competition like this.

As always - PC games are forever, piracy is forever. My quest 2 exists to have VD on it and nothing else, and when support is discontinued if the dev keeps updating it - I'll sideload the .APKs myself.

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[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 7 months ago

What a lame early April fools joke.

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

Does quest 1 have access to virtual desktop? If so, can you just keep playing off of your computer hardware? Or are those 10kB patches virtual desktop has to download RIGHT NOW five minutes after you start using it really important to the operation of the streamer app?

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Hold up. I can't make an app for you because that asshole over there says no? Refund that shit. The hardware clearly isn't yours, so your money should make it's way back to your wallet.

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (6 children)

I’m really hoping that Valve releases a new headset by the time my Quest inevitably becomes unusable.

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[–] JCreazy@midwest.social 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I have a Quest 2 that i haven't touched in almost 2 years. I should sell it.

[–] terrrmus@kbin.social 10 points 7 months ago

Since the Steam Link app came out on it, it's been waaay easier to play PCVR titles. I've had more fun with it playing modded games that weren't meant for VR than actual new VR games. Valheim was nuts. Skyrim VR modded to hell is super nuts. It's a great way to re-experience some of those old games.

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