Yes you should take it, if you got no other options.

Then you immediately update your CV with your new job title and jump ship for more pay. If the orginal company offers to match the pay you say "you had the chance to pay me more. If you valued me that much, you could have paid me that much from the start"

I’d only accept a “dry promotion” to improve my resume. Then I’d quit.

If it's a promotion to less work, maybe.

Maybe.

I got a “dry” promotion at my last position, and obviously I took it. I then put my new title on my Resume, when job hunting for a few months and found a new position that came with a 20%+ pay raise.

I’m actually a big fan of promotions that don’t include raises, because it shows that your employer doesn’t actually value you as an employee, and enables you to get a much larger raise at a new company compared to whatever raise your current employer would’ve given you if they cared at all about retention.

Capitalism 2: Slavery Boogaloo

I took a promotion without a pay rise on the agreement it would come when pay was reviewed annually. A shit deal, but one I was prepared to accept on the balance of things. I made clear that if they didn't follow through then I would immediately demote myself and start looking for a new job.

Pay review came around and it was below inflation. I immediately demoted myself and started looking for a new job. I even requested an internal transfer that was denied (made them too much money where I was).

I handed in my notice a short while later and everyone was, to my surprise, surprised. I really didn't understand why the shock....until I learned in due course that most people don't follow through.

Funnier still, I returned 6 months later (due to a quirk in contracts) at double the salary in the dept I requested a transfer to.

Anyway my point is - do what is to your benefit, always. Companies can play games - as can you.

As others have said, you take the 'promotion' and IMMEDIATELY start looking for a new job with your new title on your resume.

Corporations are not loyal to you. Do not be loyal to them.

Hey this basically happened to me. I got a 1 dollar raise offer for moving into a management role. Negotiating a higher pay Tuesday. Wish me luck!

Your "meal" doesn't come with food.

Your "marriage" doesn't come with love.

Your "car" doesn't come with an engine

Do the above sound ridiculous?

Now re-read the headline.

Once got offered a promotion to make less. Made $15/hr as a "Junior" but got 1.5x Overtime and there was always as much overtime as you wanted.

Got offered a "Not Junior" full-time role for $30,000/year.

Just got up and left. Went home and started applying elsewhere. I know I was replacing a person who made 60k

More responsibility without a pay increase sounds like a scam to me.

So the industry that I was in for a long time was production based, meaning your income is reflected by your physical performance. It was extremely demanding and also quite high paying.

So, I got stupidly good at this job. And I rarely took on additional responsibilities, because that would actually mean more stress and less money. In this industry, there were two reasons to go into management: you either had trouble coping with the physical strain that came with this insane work, or because you wanted to hold power over others. But it wasn't a pay bump and it was more work/responsibility. Consequently the people who took this on were rarely the people who should have and the industry on the whole suffers accordingly.

I was once asked if I wanted to be the project manager for a system I was working on. Purely a internal title with no pay increase. Lol, fuck no.

Of course you do.

The goal is not to earn more. The goal is to do fuck all.

Hahahahaha 😂... Oh you're serious? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA 🤣🤣🤣🤣, fuck no.

No.

Yes, take it. Then immediately update your resume with your new job title and look for another job.

This is kind of dumb on the part of companies. There's a great reason to take these: you can market experience in that position when you're applying for jobs elsewhere. You want to give me SVP title with no raise? I will find someone who will pay happily.

One of the positive things I took from this absolute stark nutball I worked with, is the idea that it's better to be richer than famous, no matter what.

Taking a promotion and getting more visibility without a pay bump to match seems to break this rule.

Life doesnt have to be this way. We can thrive, not barely survive. We just need to keep trying new things till something works while we still have time.

How do we try new things? We do away with First post voting and get an opportunity to vote for people and political parties that have fresh ideas. With a electoral system like Ranked Choice voting, people would feel safe to vote for whomsoever they wish, as their vote would still be counted even if their preference didn't win.

Just search for videos on FPTP voting if you want an explanation on how and why the spoiler effect exists.

Electoral reform is possible in each individual state (for now), we dont need federal reform! Maine and Alaska have already passed electoral reform.

Republicans are moving to make alternative electoral systems illegal in their states. Republicans LOVE first past the post voting. Just sbsolutely adore it. Why would you want to use the same voting system republicans want?

More political parties means a higher percentage of the population is representedby their choices in the voting booth. More peopleinvolvedin the electoral process, more people engaged.

Its a win win win all around for not just the people, but also for the democratic party. More people voting means more democratic votes. The numbers dont lie. So what’s the hold up blue states?

Some day we will be able to vote for who best represents our interests. We won't need to grovel on our knees, begging for representationin government. We won't need to wait for the Republican party to stop existing.

We can do it right now.

Consider starting a campaign to change how we vote in your own state! Force our representatives to compete with fresh outside ideas. We deserve the best representation, not excuses.