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submitted 10 months ago by Five@slrpnk.net to c/socialism@beehaw.org
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[-] sapient_cogbag@infosec.pub 19 points 10 months ago

Promoting anarchist ideas! The horror! (/s)

[-] StrayCatFrump@slrpnk.net 17 points 10 months ago

Definitely what the RICO Act was sold to us as being designed for. /s

Fuck the police. Fuck the state.

[-] meta_synth@yiffit.net 11 points 10 months ago

Something tells me this isn't the whole story... "Promoting anarchist ideas" sounds like political speech to me, which isn't illegal, whether in Georgia or anywhere else in the US.

[-] rwhitisissle@beehaw.org 11 points 10 months ago

You can find the indictment online at the link posted above. It goes pretty deep into how the prosecutors understand anarchism. There's definitely an ideological bent to the prosecution, but the things they're being indicted over are arson, destruction of private property, and a host of illegal means of preventing the construction of Cop City. Still...the prosecution is clearly extremely concerned with misrepresenting anarchism as a political ideology.

[-] alyaza@beehaw.org 9 points 10 months ago

There’s definitely an ideological bent to the prosecution, but the things they’re being indicted over are arson, destruction of private property, and a host of illegal means of preventing the construction of Cop City.

these are things maybe like, three people out of all the people being indicted are actually guilt of. the Georgia state government does not deserve your benefit of the doubt on these being "good" prosecutions when they just arrested people for running a bail fund like two months ago.

[-] rwhitisissle@beehaw.org 2 points 10 months ago

I'm not defending the indictment, I'm explaining the crimes with which they're being charged. Being accused of a crime doesn't mean they're guilty. It just means those are the crimes the state elected to charge them with. An important distinction.

[-] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 7 points 10 months ago

They are using the claim that this is all ideologically-driven in order to charge them as co-conspirators. One person in a protest burns a trash can, and you claim they were all ideologically in support of that as members of the same "criminal organization" and charge them under RICO laws.

[-] StrayCatFrump@slrpnk.net 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Of course political speech is illegal. Always has been. It just isn't nominally legal on paper. People have been indicted, prosecuted, and imprisoned for it constantly. A famous example is Eugene Debs, who was prosecuted under the Espionage Act and imprisoned for an anti-war speech he made in 1918.

Please don't be taken in by the veneer of moronic constitutionalist liberalism. The state punishes people when it feels like punishing people, and does so especially for political speech and dissent...for being an anarchist; for being a leftist. The propaganda it puts down on paper has never changed that.

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 10 months ago

So Georgia is prosecuting mutual aid?

[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

Hey conservatives, why are they virulent ideas? Why do you think these messages spread like wildfire and resonate with so many?

[-] HalJor@beehaw.org 3 points 10 months ago

"In linking the defendants to the alleged conspiracy, prosecutors have made a huge series of allegations. That includes everything from possessing fire accelerant and throwing Molotov cocktails at police officers, to being reimbursed for glue and food for the activists who spent months camping in the woods near the construction site."

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