The oct 7 attacks were vile and indefensible, people believe the israeli response to be disproportionally violent though. Me sitting in my western country don't have enough info to really pass judgement though. Expect downvotes.
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Israels actions can be considered disproportionate and really really bad and Hamas can at the same time be considered to be a terrorist organisation that execute terrorist attacks against civilians. One bad thing doesn't automatically cancel out another bad thing.
Grown-ups knows that two things can be considered bad at the same time.
There's a lot of toddlers on Lemmy....
Me sitting in my western country don’t have enough info to really pass judgement though.
Yes you do.
Nothing on October 7th justifies killing 13,000 children.
Damn
Why anyone would defend these people is beyond me call me a genocider cause I support my homeland and my religion I don't care .
Cool.
Just to clarify, I support a number of principals but if one of those principals became closely associated with genocide I would care. The fact that you can embrace the cost of genocide should be a fucking wake up call when Isreal itself was born out of a genocide committed on the Jewish people - if Isreal was a third party to what is happening I'd expect them to stand against it due to the empathy of having suffered the same... the fact that Isreal is a first party and you can openly embrace genocide is a clear signal you've lost the fucking thread. What you consider your homeland is also another people's homeland, a people that cohabitated with your people before being forced onto reservations - and if you think your religion is under threat, you're only accurate to the extent that it is being associated with Netanyahu and his government is burning every bridge they can find.
Seek fucking help.
I think you're absolutely correct in spirit, but I do want to correct the myth that Israel was created because of the Holocaust. Israel as a concept started in the late 1800s and early Zionists were discussing plans to ethnic cleanse Palestine in the 1930s, long before the Holocaust.
Israel, Zionism and genocide are peas in a pod. The connection to the Holocaust is revisionist history.
https://decolonizepalestine.com/myth/israel-penance-for-holocaust/
YOU are defending them, if by "these people" you mean "killers of innocent civilians."
Suggestion, just block this account.
Check my history, I'm rabidly anti-Zionist, but I don't support banning people for bad opinions. I would rather have robust, respectul discourse, particularly when someone presents a view that is not particularly fringe, especially for an Israeli. Let them make their case.
It would be different if this was a community specifically for anti-Zionists, but c/world should be a place for healthy debate between people from all different viewpoints.
It's quite easy to scroll past content you don't want to engage with or even block certain users for yourself. No need for some mod to decide what opinions are and are not OK.
No but I think it's okay for mods to have some guidelunes and this submission breaks them.
People are supoosed to post news articles with an excerpt. Not some kind of semi literate editorial of their personal opinion.
Agree, that's why it's a suggestion. Op acc stinks of propaganda.