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[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 55 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Let it die, Tim. Let it die.

[–] brotkel@programming.dev 24 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A TV show centered around superheroes was a novel concept in 2006. In a post-Marvel vs DC world, not so much.

[–] ObsidianZed@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I mean, The Boys and Invincible is still pretty big and recent.

[–] misterundercoat@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Both shows that deliberately subvert the Marvel formula.

[–] ObsidianZed@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 months ago

Oh I don't disagree, just pointing out that it's not impossible. I'm not even holding out hope for this second reboot, but I'd love to be proven wrong.

[–] hellothere@sh.itjust.works 23 points 7 months ago

1 awesome season, just let it be.

[–] ringwraithfish@startrek.website 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Everyone has superhero fatigue, seems like a great time to develop another superhero show!

[–] GONADS125@feddit.de 6 points 7 months ago

The only show that peirces thru imo is The Boys.

[–] finthechat@kbin.social 17 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I learned what "yata" in Japanese meant because of this show. Also, I remember NISSAN VERSA product placement, but everything else about this show got sucked out of my head like the Zachary Quinto character got to me.

[–] aaaa@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Sylar just left people dead.

It was the Haitian that sucked your memories out

[–] finthechat@kbin.social 18 points 7 months ago

See what I mean? All my memories of this show are gone.

[–] Davel23@fedia.io 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sylar was able to extract other's powers and use them himself. Most of his victims ended up dead, but later in the series we learn he can do it without killing.

[–] ObsidianZed@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago

I want to say he had to examine their brain and 'how it worked' because both he and his father were clock/watch repair men. That or I originally thought they implied that he had to eat the part of the brain to gain their power, though he does get strong enough later to not need to do any of that.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago

Save the cheerleader

Save the world

[–] Lemming6969@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Plot suffered from characters becoming too powerful without limit, getting painted into corners, and rules of their own universe being broken for dumb plot points at the last second. If they don't put much better constraints into place, it'll just suck.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 10 points 7 months ago

pretty sure it died along lost with the writer strike

[–] MisterD@lemmy.ca 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I heard Season 2 was supposed to be a whole new cast and the network said no. So they ended up with over powered characters

[–] Ageroth@reddthat.com 7 points 7 months ago

That's what I remember, it was supposed to be an anthology season, each one new stories of people gaining powers and leaning to use them. Then "save the cheerleader save the world" was so damn popular the exec's wouldn't let the characters go

[–] key@lemmy.keychat.org 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Going for the record of most flops?

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Flops, what do you mean?

... Oh yikes he's already done other Heroes shows lol

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Oh nooo ...

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Is this the one with the cop who literally smells crime?

Ed: I'm wrong, he was a mind reader which is a bit less hokey

[–] vic_rattlehead@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

You're thinking of Always Sunny. "And then he smells crime again, he's out busting heads. Then he's back to the lab for some more full penetration. Smells crime. Back to the lab, full penetration. Crime. Penetration. Crime. Full penetration. Crime. Penetration. And this goes on and on and back and forth for 90 or so minutes until the movie just sort of ends."

[–] Chuymatt@beehaw.org 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No writer’s strike this time.

[–] MisterD@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago

Don't care. The magic is gone. People will piss on it regardless if they had something good

[–] AcornCarnage@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

If I get more Hiro, I'm happy. I was so excited to see his 5 seconds in Bullet Train.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That first season was lucky beyond belief and still barely worked sometimes. Everything since then... kinda sucked.

The writer's strike takes the blame for a hot mess of bad ideas they were gonna do anyway.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago

Honestly, the lesson of this show was - do one good season. Tell a complete story in two dozen hour-long chunks. Don't dangle a satisfying conclusion for ten years.

Having things happen should not be novel. It should not be tied to endless dragging soap-opera formula, or edgelord anyone-can-die chaos. You can be melodramatic! You can kill off characters! But those should not be primary goals. No more than pleading "one more season!," which is guaranteed to fail eventually, having resolved approximately nothing.

Avoiding that shaggy-dog storytelling is what made Heroes a major event. It wasn't the first or most important show with its aspirations. The Sopranos was in full swing and Breaking Bad was not far-off. And until Twin Peaks lanced the whole genre, prime-time soap operas like Dallas had the budget and scope we'd later celebrate in those shows. People liked seeing characters with stakes that weren't guaranteed to orbit the status quo.

But the idiot suits only heard 'people like these characters, let's milk this fucker dry.' And then the writer's strike took the blame. That's the kindest thing that ever happened to this show's legacy. An irreverent outlier took off and its corporate masters drowned it in money. Do you understand how that always goes? You get some Soul Society garbage instead of whatever made things interesting. Heroes season two is when they went to Namek.